Tonight’s YouGov poll for the Sunday Times has topline figures of CON 34%, LAB 42%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 8% – still very much in line with the recent YouGov average Labour leads of 9 to 10 points.

The ICM poll for the Sunday Telegraph meanwhile is their usual “wisdom index”, that asks respondents to predict the shares of the vote at the next election rather than say how they will vote. The average prediction is Conservatives on 31%, Labour on 38% and the Liberal Democrats on 17%.

110 Responses to “YouGov/Sunday Times – CON 34, LAB 42, LD 8, UKIP 8”

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  1. BAZSC

    THat sounds like a great school.

    When was the playing field sold off-and why?

  2. @Anthony

    I’m not persuaded on best PM. Loads of Labour identifiers & VI voters don’t choose Miliband as best PM.

    Therefore you can’t say that it is decided along party political or VI lines.

    If it was, Boris & Cameron would be splitting 32% of the vote not 44% & – more importantly, to me at least – Ed Miliband would be around 40%.


    @”EU lead medal table with 88 golds”

    Don’t think they had a team.

    Must be a misprint :-)

  4. Colin,

    Not really – a fairly normal school with fairly normal people. Just happens that some were good at sport

    Not sure when some of the playing fields were sold off and why – sometimes in the 80s. Houses I think

    The other issue is that school fields are like fortresses as well so there is no access out of hours. When I was a kid you could go in and use the fields for football, cricket (only the main square was cordoned off) and rugby

  5. On sport, I am delighted that society & community are widely acknowledged as being of the essence. In the past, it was all stories of lone individuals succeeding against the odds. Now we know, it takes a team to make an athlete who has the ability to compete in individual events.

  6. BAZSC

    @”Just happens that some were good at sport”

    Ah -I see-no particular effort by the school then-just good luck.

    Pretty good luck to produce”one Olympic Gold medallist and the British champion female gymnast in the early 80s, along with a few pro footballers and other excellent gymnasts.” !

    So many places these days seem to be afflicted by vandalism-perhaps that is why they no longer allow unlimited access?

    Sad-but I’m not surprised. The Nature Reserve where I volunteer has four terrific observation hides. The warden fits them out with information & interpretation resources-and the local kids rip them all down.

  7. No, the teachers put in effort with the kids but as I said it was not all about teachers and schools. It is also about the support from the local clubs and communities.

    The focus of all the debates, including Cameron and Gove, is that you have to try and emulate private schools. What I point out is that state schools can and have also been successful, but these do not meet the political agenda that is being written.

    My school was not particularly sporty is what I am saying, and so I take from that schools are not the only important factor in making a successful athlete

    I also find it a bit laughable that Olympic minority sports are being held up as the pinnacle of sporting prowess – with the non-Olympic professional sports being continually denigrated, especially football. It takes us back to the days when the ‘amateur’ gentleman was the real sportsman supported by the ‘professional’ working class oik.

  8. @ Anthony

    On the best chancellor thing, you have your interpretation of it as being purely party political. I interpret the same facts in a different but equally ‘viable’ way:

    Labour had few chancellors precisely because Gordon Brown had overwhelming voter support as being a good chancellor. Even the very popular Tony Blair couldn’t remove him.

    None of the Tory chancellors were good enough to have had overwhelming voter support; that’s why there were so many of them.

    The best chancellor is, therefore, Gordon Brown, just as the poll said. ;-)

    The interesting question is to what extent has support for a Keynesian economic strategy ceased to be tribal. (Shorten sentence…… ) In that case Labour and the Democrats are likely to the natural parties of government for decades as radical changes to economic policy and financial institutions come into being.

  10. Amber Star

    Clearly society, organisation, finance etc are essential to sporting success. This would seem to be so with most things (think Russian Chess players, Athenian dramatists, German Chemists etc). Equally there is a need for individual talent and effort (think Shakespeare, Einstein, Bradman, Bolt or whoever). The trick must be to have a form of organisation and social support that enables individuals to perform to their best without either stifling them or feeling the need to bribe them with insane amounts of money. Unfortunately the desire for good organisation, fairness and so on can lead to the shackling of individuals, mediocrity or even tyranny, while the desire for liberating individuals can lead to gross inequalities, injustice and other Victorian evils. Each political side tends to point to the side of this dilemma that suits their views. So Boris says that Bolt only runs to beat the competition while you rightly point to the role of society in the success of team GB. i want a society where everyone is free to be the best they can be, is supported in this by society and benefits society in return. Which way should I vote and why?

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