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		<title>By: H.Hemmelig</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/yorkshire-and-humberside-european/comment-page-3/#comment-285869</link>
		<dc:creator>H.Hemmelig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the BNP ditched the hardline racism and joined up with UKIP the new party could be quite formidable.

UKIP probably wouldn&#039;t want them though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the BNP ditched the hardline racism and joined up with UKIP the new party could be quite formidable.</p>
<p>UKIP probably wouldn&#8217;t want them though.</p>
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		<title>By: swanarcadian</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/yorkshire-and-humberside-european/comment-page-3/#comment-285863</link>
		<dc:creator>swanarcadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently received a leaflet from our BNP MEP Andrew Brons, has anyone else living in Yorkshire got one? 
I don&#039;t fancy his chances of being re-elected and obviously he is stepping up his efforts to ensure he is.  Most of the things he has put on his leaflet wouldn&#039;t look out of place on a UKIP leaflet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently received a leaflet from our BNP MEP Andrew Brons, has anyone else living in Yorkshire got one?<br />
I don&#8217;t fancy his chances of being re-elected and obviously he is stepping up his efforts to ensure he is.  Most of the things he has put on his leaflet wouldn&#8217;t look out of place on a UKIP leaflet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran W</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/yorkshire-and-humberside-european/comment-page-3/#comment-238166</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In common with British Euro MPs South Africa Members of Parliament and members of provincial assemblies are also elected via a closed list electoral system. For just over a year floor crossing by elected representatives has been outlawed there on the grounds that individuals should not be allowed to unilaterally alter the political composition of an assembly so that it is no longer an accurate reflection of the balance of the votes cast at the preceding election.

For as long as UK MEPs are elected via closed lists, a similar rule should be introduced preventing them from crossing the floor. Those elected via closed list cannot really claim to have much of a personal mandate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In common with British Euro MPs South Africa Members of Parliament and members of provincial assemblies are also elected via a closed list electoral system. For just over a year floor crossing by elected representatives has been outlawed there on the grounds that individuals should not be allowed to unilaterally alter the political composition of an assembly so that it is no longer an accurate reflection of the balance of the votes cast at the preceding election.</p>
<p>For as long as UK MEPs are elected via closed lists, a similar rule should be introduced preventing them from crossing the floor. Those elected via closed list cannot really claim to have much of a personal mandate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran W</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/yorkshire-and-humberside-european/comment-page-3/#comment-238153</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Macmillan-Scott&#039;s reselection as a Conservative candidate for the most recent round of elections was doubtless aided by the disgraceful selection process the party employed. If as a potential candidate you were not a woman or an incumbent MEP the odds of securing a prominent place on a list were stacked so much against you it was almost not worth bothering. The advantages in the selection process given to current MEPs forms a large part of the explanation as to why the views of so many Tory Euro MPs still continue to be out of step with the balance of opinion in the party and the country.

Macmillan-Scott is following in the footsteps of Bill Newton-Dunn in leaving the party having been elected following a Euro-sceptic campaign, citing the fact that the Tories are too Euro-sceptic. What a pair of tools.

If he or his new party have a shred of decency and respect for the wishes of the voters of this region as expressed through the ballot box, he will be standing down in order to allow a Conservative to take his place. I wont be banking on that happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Macmillan-Scott&#8217;s reselection as a Conservative candidate for the most recent round of elections was doubtless aided by the disgraceful selection process the party employed. If as a potential candidate you were not a woman or an incumbent MEP the odds of securing a prominent place on a list were stacked so much against you it was almost not worth bothering. The advantages in the selection process given to current MEPs forms a large part of the explanation as to why the views of so many Tory Euro MPs still continue to be out of step with the balance of opinion in the party and the country.</p>
<p>Macmillan-Scott is following in the footsteps of Bill Newton-Dunn in leaving the party having been elected following a Euro-sceptic campaign, citing the fact that the Tories are too Euro-sceptic. What a pair of tools.</p>
<p>If he or his new party have a shred of decency and respect for the wishes of the voters of this region as expressed through the ballot box, he will be standing down in order to allow a Conservative to take his place. I wont be banking on that happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/yorkshire-and-humberside-european/comment-page-3/#comment-238148</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for the first point, it not the fault of a long dead Belgian or his voting system that an elected member has been expelled from one party and subsequently joined another&quot;

I wasn&#039;t aware that I suggested it was.  It is certainly a failing in the implementation of the system here that someone who holds his place purely by virtue of votes cast for a party list can still retain that place when he defects to a different party.  It is bad enough when MPs sitting for single member constituencies defect and therefore turn against the wishes of those who voted for them, but they are at least able to maintain the fiction that they have been elected as an individual rather than as a representative of a party and therefore have some kind of personal mandate.  There is no personal mandate here.  The party list won seats in the European parliament not the individual therefore if one leaves the party they should forfeit their seat and it should go to the next person on the list of the party in question (in this case Fleur Butler).
Andy is entirely correct of course and the Conservatives were idiotic to continue to select someone like this. My sympathy is not with them but with the Conservative voters in Yorkshire who continued to think that a vote for their party was worthwhile in this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for the first point, it not the fault of a long dead Belgian or his voting system that an elected member has been expelled from one party and subsequently joined another&#8221;</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that I suggested it was.  It is certainly a failing in the implementation of the system here that someone who holds his place purely by virtue of votes cast for a party list can still retain that place when he defects to a different party.  It is bad enough when MPs sitting for single member constituencies defect and therefore turn against the wishes of those who voted for them, but they are at least able to maintain the fiction that they have been elected as an individual rather than as a representative of a party and therefore have some kind of personal mandate.  There is no personal mandate here.  The party list won seats in the European parliament not the individual therefore if one leaves the party they should forfeit their seat and it should go to the next person on the list of the party in question (in this case Fleur Butler).<br />
Andy is entirely correct of course and the Conservatives were idiotic to continue to select someone like this. My sympathy is not with them but with the Conservative voters in Yorkshire who continued to think that a vote for their party was worthwhile in this election.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Stidwill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Stidwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why the Tories kept selecting him when it has been obvious he might join the LDs for at least 15 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why the Tories kept selecting him when it has been obvious he might join the LDs for at least 15 years.</p>
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		<title>By: doktorb</title>
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		<dc:creator>doktorb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he wishes to do that, I am sure he would be supported.

As for the first point, it not the fault of a long dead Belgian or his voting system that an elected member has been expelled from one party and subsequently joined another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he wishes to do that, I am sure he would be supported.</p>
<p>As for the first point, it not the fault of a long dead Belgian or his voting system that an elected member has been expelled from one party and subsequently joined another.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/yorkshire-and-humberside-european/comment-page-2/#comment-238130</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now the party which came fourth in votes in this region has twice as many MEPs as any other party including the three parties who won more votes.  I trust that the Lib Dems believing in &#039;fairness&#039; will prevail upon Mr Macmillan-Scott to resign his seat so that it can be rightfully occupied by a Conservative MEP in accordance with the democratically expressed wishes of the electors of Yorkshire &amp; the Humber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now the party which came fourth in votes in this region has twice as many MEPs as any other party including the three parties who won more votes.  I trust that the Lib Dems believing in &#8216;fairness&#8217; will prevail upon Mr Macmillan-Scott to resign his seat so that it can be rightfully occupied by a Conservative MEP in accordance with the democratically expressed wishes of the electors of Yorkshire &amp; the Humber.</p>
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		<title>By: sparky33</title>
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		<dc:creator>sparky33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward McMillan-Scott has just joined the Liberal Democrats</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward McMillan-Scott has just joined the Liberal Democrats</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Stidwill</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/yorkshire-and-humberside-european/comment-page-2/#comment-213009</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Stidwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward McMillan-Scott has been expelled from the Conservative Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward McMillan-Scott has been expelled from the Conservative Party.</p>
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