Stirling
2005 Results:
Labour: 15729 (36%)
Conservative: 10962 (25.1%)
Liberal Democrat: 9052 (20.7%)
SNP: 5503 (12.6%)
Other: 2445 (5.6%)
Majority: 4767 (10.9%)
Boundary changes prior to 2005 election.
2001 Result
Conservative: 8901 (24.8%)
Labour: 15175 (42.2%)
Liberal Democrat: 4208 (11.7%)
SNP: 5877 (16.4%)
Green: 757 (2.1%)
Other: 1012 (2.8%)
Majority: 6274 (17.5%)
1997 Result
Conservative: 13971 (32.5%)
Labour: 20382 (47.4%)
Liberal Democrat: 2675 (6.2%)
SNP: 5752 (13.4%)
Other: 178 (0.4%)
Majority: 6411 (14.9%)
No Boundary Changes
Current MP: Anne McGuire (Labour) (more information at They work for you)
Candidates:
Bob Dalrymple (Conservative) born 1975, Dumfries. Educated at Edinburgh university. Whisky marketeer. Contested Stirling and Mid Scotland & Fife region in 2007 Scottish Parliament elections.
2001 Census Demographics
Total 2001 Population: 86212
Male: 47.8%
Female: 52.2%
Under 18: 23.1%
Over 60: 20.9%
Born outside UK: 4.3%
White: 98.5%
Black: 0.2%
Asian: 0.5%
Mixed: 0.3%
Other: 0.5%
Christian: 65.7%
Graduates 16-74: 26.6%
No Qualifications 16-74: 26.7%
Owner-Occupied: 66.6%
Social Housing: 22.6% (Council: 20%, Housing Ass.: 2.6%)
Privately Rented: 7.4%
Homes without central heating and/or private bathroom: 3.4%
















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Ruislip Northwood
I can tell you the 1979 notional result was
Con 15902 37.2%
Lab 15216 35.6%
SNP 6783 15.9%
Lib 4811 11.3%
22056 voters came from Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth (40.6%), 19757 from Stirlingshire West (36.4%) and 12534 from Kinross & West Perthshire (23.1).
August 19th, 2008 at 10:47 amIt doesnt therefore have an obvious predecssor. It took slightly the largest amount of voters from eac of Stirling F&G and Stirlingshire West but that was only a third of those voters in each case
Ruislip Northwood
Of course the boundaries were not quite the same as this seat then. While this seat now includes all of Stirling district, that did not - there was some area included in Clackmannan. I think this was Bannockburn which is strongly Labour so probably on current boundaries this would have notionally been a Labour seat in 1979 (and 1987 and 1992?)
August 19th, 2008 at 10:51 amof the 15,206 voters from West Stirlingshire in 1982,the split was 50/50 Labour/Conservative in that areas such as Fallin, Plean, Bannockburn and Whins of Milton (as the was that part of Bridge of Allan that contained the University Halls of Residence) were Labour, but areas such as Bridge of Allan, Gargunnock, Kippen, Drymen, Balfron and Strathblane were Conservative.
August 19th, 2008 at 11:27 amThe area Pete Whitehead obliquley refers to is the old Clackmannan and East Stirlingshire (Bannockburn was always in West) which as well as the “wee county” also included areas such as Airth, Larbert,Carronshore and Stenhousemuir,and the areas south of Falkik such as Polmont, Brightons, Avonbridge and Slammannan.This Constituency was split into three distinct separate parts divided in one case by the River Forth (with no physical connection) and in the other by the Constituency of SFG,sometime known as “Stirling & Falkirk District of Burghs”(a term used also in Dunfermline and Kirkcaldy)
Ruislip Northwood
“The area Pete Whitehead obliquley refers to is the old Clackmannan and East Stirlingshire (Bannockburn was always in West) ”
No I was referring to the post 1983 version of Clackmannan which included part of Stirling district. This was electoral division 13 (Carseland) if that helps. I’m not sure what area was covered hence the obliquness of my reference.
August 19th, 2008 at 11:41 amPete W
August 19th, 2008 at 2:41 pmCarseland is the area to the East of the City-mainly the small ex mining community of Fallin sometimes known as Polmaise. I think the boundary between that and Falkirk West was the small hamlet of Dunmore just beyond Throsk (formely RN Bandeath).I think it strecthed to the south towards Plean (another ex mining village) Council ownership is the standard form on tenure in the ward
Ruislip Northwood
Thanks Ian. So given your description of the area perhaps it is correct to speculate that since the 1983 version of Stirling exluded it, the notional figure in 1979 for the current Stirling seat might well have goven Labour a plurality, and likewise in 1987 andd 1992.
August 19th, 2008 at 3:00 pmIt also fair to add that between 1997 and 2005, Bridge of Allan and Logie(mainly the University campus) wards were in Ochil constituency with Carseland being brought into in Sirling. Actually it makes Michael Forsyth’s 1997 result all the more remarkable.
August 19th, 2008 at 3:13 pmRuislip Northwood
Yes he did well. I was looking at Robert Waller’s Almanac earlier with reference to Stirling and the edition ahead of the 1997 election suggested that those boundary changes reduced the Conservative majority from around 700 to around 200. DO you not think the effect would actually have been greater than that and that this would have been translated into a notionally Labour seat in 1992?
August 19th, 2008 at 3:43 pmMichael Forsyth featured on a gloating video of the 1997 election I found as the first minister to fall,
August 19th, 2008 at 5:56 pmbut it was an excellent result in the circumstances.
He went for a row the next day - a good thing to do the day after you’ve lost your seat.
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