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	<title>Comments on: Plymouth Moor View</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/plymouthmoorview/comment-page-2/#comment-270540</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of which side of the Severn/Wash line they are on, any objective observer would rate the South West streets ahead of East Anglia and South East England in terms of desirability. Why else would so many people from the South East chose to retire in the south West – even now when property prices aren’t so contrasting as they once were? Its proximity to London will always make the South East a more densely populated and expensive part of the country to live in  

Parts of Cornwall might well be run-down – I remember Cambourne and Bodmin seeming particularly down at the hell, but its landscape more than makes up for it whereas the likes of Norfolk and Lincolnshire have no such redeeming features.

The South West may indeed have some chavvy towns – and you could add Plymouth, Bristol even Paignton to those you mention, but these are vastly outnumbered by those in the home counties alone – Stevenage, Hemel Hempsted, Harlow, Grays, Stains, Bracknell, Basildon, Slough, Welwyn, Watford, Southend, Pitsea, Braintree, Reading, Dartford, Gravesend, Maidstone, Margate, Ramsgate, Chatham, Strood, Sheppey, Dover, Ashford I could go on 

There seems to be an assumption that the Tory-voting habits of the voters from such towns makes them less chav – a rather bizarre conclusion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of which side of the Severn/Wash line they are on, any objective observer would rate the South West streets ahead of East Anglia and South East England in terms of desirability. Why else would so many people from the South East chose to retire in the south West – even now when property prices aren’t so contrasting as they once were? Its proximity to London will always make the South East a more densely populated and expensive part of the country to live in  </p>
<p>Parts of Cornwall might well be run-down – I remember Cambourne and Bodmin seeming particularly down at the hell, but its landscape more than makes up for it whereas the likes of Norfolk and Lincolnshire have no such redeeming features.</p>
<p>The South West may indeed have some chavvy towns – and you could add Plymouth, Bristol even Paignton to those you mention, but these are vastly outnumbered by those in the home counties alone – Stevenage, Hemel Hempsted, Harlow, Grays, Stains, Bracknell, Basildon, Slough, Welwyn, Watford, Southend, Pitsea, Braintree, Reading, Dartford, Gravesend, Maidstone, Margate, Ramsgate, Chatham, Strood, Sheppey, Dover, Ashford I could go on </p>
<p>There seems to be an assumption that the Tory-voting habits of the voters from such towns makes them less chav – a rather bizarre conclusion</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/plymouthmoorview/comment-page-2/#comment-270506</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not keen on the flat areas like in Cambridgeshire and particularly Norfolk but in general Tim is talking rubbish about the East/South East. There are every bit as many chavvy towns in the south west, places like Taunton and Yeovil and Weymouth and if there are poor and rundown small towns in Norfolk there are every bit as much in Cornwall.  Of course all this is sort of irrelevant since all these counties are on the &#039;right&#039; side of the Severn/Wash line - perhaps Tim is confused about where the Severn is. The only part of the South West region which is to the &#039;left&#039; of it is the Forest of Dean (&#039;delapidated, run-down small towns&#039;).  The line generally refers to the division between the southern regions (SE, SW, East and London) and the rest so all those areas he refers to with the exception of the Welsh Marches are south of that line</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not keen on the flat areas like in Cambridgeshire and particularly Norfolk but in general Tim is talking rubbish about the East/South East. There are every bit as many chavvy towns in the south west, places like Taunton and Yeovil and Weymouth and if there are poor and rundown small towns in Norfolk there are every bit as much in Cornwall.  Of course all this is sort of irrelevant since all these counties are on the &#8216;right&#8217; side of the Severn/Wash line &#8211; perhaps Tim is confused about where the Severn is. The only part of the South West region which is to the &#8216;left&#8217; of it is the Forest of Dean (&#8216;delapidated, run-down small towns&#8217;).  The line generally refers to the division between the southern regions (SE, SW, East and London) and the rest so all those areas he refers to with the exception of the Welsh Marches are south of that line</p>
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		<title>By: Andy JS</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/plymouthmoorview/comment-page-2/#comment-270504</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like flat areas of the country like Cambridgeshire and Suffolk so I&#039;m not going to be in complete agreement with Tim on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like flat areas of the country like Cambridgeshire and Suffolk so I&#8217;m not going to be in complete agreement with Tim on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/plymouthmoorview/comment-page-2/#comment-270502</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Why haven’t you mentioned Dorset?&#039;

I was mainky focussing pon counties in the far west (the wesat country) and those which boarder Wales. 

Dorset is neither although I&#039;m the first to say it&#039;s one of the most unspoilt and picturesque counties in the whole country</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Why haven’t you mentioned Dorset?&#8217;</p>
<p>I was mainky focussing pon counties in the far west (the wesat country) and those which boarder Wales. </p>
<p>Dorset is neither although I&#8217;m the first to say it&#8217;s one of the most unspoilt and picturesque counties in the whole country</p>
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		<title>By: runnymede</title>
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		<dc:creator>runnymede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why haven&#039;t you mentioned Dorset?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why haven&#8217;t you mentioned Dorset?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;One kind of division I don’t like very much is the “line from the Severn to Wash”

I don&#039;t see that

Taking Wales out the equation altogether, my understanding is that western England is almost universally seen as far nicer and more desirable than Eastern England

And its not hard to see why 

The east coast offers us the chav counties of Kent and Essex, Norfolk which has no shortage of delapidated, run-down small towns, flat Lincolnshire, arguably the most boring county in the UK, and then further up the north east coast industrial towns like Hull, Middlesborough, Hartlepool, Stockton and Sunderland 

This contrasts with the scenic counties of Devon Cornwall and Somerset in the West Country, Glucestershire with its cotrswold hills and rural Shropshire and Herefordshire

Its only once we get past Cheshire up to Merseyside coast where things turn a little less nice 

If there were a line from the Wash to the severn, I&#039;d suggest most people would want to be placed on the left of that divide</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;One kind of division I don’t like very much is the “line from the Severn to Wash”</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that</p>
<p>Taking Wales out the equation altogether, my understanding is that western England is almost universally seen as far nicer and more desirable than Eastern England</p>
<p>And its not hard to see why </p>
<p>The east coast offers us the chav counties of Kent and Essex, Norfolk which has no shortage of delapidated, run-down small towns, flat Lincolnshire, arguably the most boring county in the UK, and then further up the north east coast industrial towns like Hull, Middlesborough, Hartlepool, Stockton and Sunderland </p>
<p>This contrasts with the scenic counties of Devon Cornwall and Somerset in the West Country, Glucestershire with its cotrswold hills and rural Shropshire and Herefordshire</p>
<p>Its only once we get past Cheshire up to Merseyside coast where things turn a little less nice </p>
<p>If there were a line from the Wash to the severn, I&#8217;d suggest most people would want to be placed on the left of that divide</p>
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		<title>By: Andy JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 03:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politically speaking Wales doesn&#039;t usually seem to be included in a &quot;southern UK&quot; definition although of course in geographical terms in might be.

One kind of division I don&#039;t like very much is the &quot;line from the Severn to Wash&quot; one because it means places like Worcestershire West and Solihull are placed in the &quot;poor&quot; category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politically speaking Wales doesn&#8217;t usually seem to be included in a &#8220;southern UK&#8221; definition although of course in geographical terms in might be.</p>
<p>One kind of division I don&#8217;t like very much is the &#8220;line from the Severn to Wash&#8221; one because it means places like Worcestershire West and Solihull are placed in the &#8220;poor&#8221; category.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnaby JL Marder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barnaby JL Marder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 23:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry that referred to Andy&#039;s previous comment. Having considered it further however it must be likely that some South Wales seats also come under this category - perhaps you meant Southern England Andy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry that referred to Andy&#8217;s previous comment. Having considered it further however it must be likely that some South Wales seats also come under this category &#8211; perhaps you meant Southern England Andy?</p>
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		<title>By: Barnaby JL Marder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barnaby JL Marder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 23:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s almost certainly correct</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s almost certainly correct</p>
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		<title>By: Joe James B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe James B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 23:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labour has managed to ship around 15,000 votes here since 1997.
But I suspect they&#039;ll hold on now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour has managed to ship around 15,000 votes here since 1997.<br />
But I suspect they&#8217;ll hold on now.</p>
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