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	<title>Comments on: Oldham West and Royton</title>
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		<title>By: Did The BNP Vote Really &#8216;Collapse&#8217;? 14.5.2010 &#124; Rachel Holdsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Did The BNP Vote Really &#8216;Collapse&#8217;? 14.5.2010 &#124; Rachel Holdsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Further afield, the BNP increased votes and / or share in Stoke on Trent Central, Oldham West and Oldham East, while the focus on Ed Balls in Morley and Outwood meant we missed the news that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Further afield, the BNP increased votes and / or share in Stoke on Trent Central, Oldham West and Oldham East, while the focus on Ed Balls in Morley and Outwood meant we missed the news that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Whitehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There certainly was historically in Lewisham, if one goes back to the 1970s when the NF almost won a council by-election in Deptford. As with other inner-areas where the far-right used to be strong such as Tower Hamlets and Newham, their support will have faded as the demographics have tipped over to a pojnt where ethnic minority groups are dominant and those white people who find this objectionable have long since moved out (probably to places like Bexley and Bromley and Swanley)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There certainly was historically in Lewisham, if one goes back to the 1970s when the NF almost won a council by-election in Deptford. As with other inner-areas where the far-right used to be strong such as Tower Hamlets and Newham, their support will have faded as the demographics have tipped over to a pojnt where ethnic minority groups are dominant and those white people who find this objectionable have long since moved out (probably to places like Bexley and Bromley and Swanley)</p>
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		<title>By: H.Hemmelig</title>
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		<dc:creator>H.Hemmelig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lewisham is very different to Eltham (which is in Greenwich borough).  There is very little racial tension in Lewisham borough and hasn&#039;t really been much historically.

I agree, further south and east into outer London is a different kettle of fish.  Eltham, Thamesmead, Bexley and also Bromley to some extent are more racially tense (also these are still predominantly white areas).

Politically, how does the race issue affect Oldham (except for generating a high BNP vote)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lewisham is very different to Eltham (which is in Greenwich borough).  There is very little racial tension in Lewisham borough and hasn&#8217;t really been much historically.</p>
<p>I agree, further south and east into outer London is a different kettle of fish.  Eltham, Thamesmead, Bexley and also Bromley to some extent are more racially tense (also these are still predominantly white areas).</p>
<p>Politically, how does the race issue affect Oldham (except for generating a high BNP vote)?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I live adjacent to Catford, Sydenham and Downham which all fit that description.&#039;

That part of London (South East) has had its fair share of racial problems in the past

There was the Stephen Lawrence murder in nearby Eltham in 1993 and the BNP have their headquarters in Welling but over the past 10 years the BNP and others have found their strongest base of support further east in places like Barking, Dagenham and before that, Tower Hamlets

I&#039;ve certainly haven&#039;t noticed the racial tension in places like Eltham and Lewisham match those levels in East London and in places like Burnley and particularly Oldham 

Nick Griffin won 16% of the vote here in 2001 - his best performance at a general election</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I live adjacent to Catford, Sydenham and Downham which all fit that description.&#8217;</p>
<p>That part of London (South East) has had its fair share of racial problems in the past</p>
<p>There was the Stephen Lawrence murder in nearby Eltham in 1993 and the BNP have their headquarters in Welling but over the past 10 years the BNP and others have found their strongest base of support further east in places like Barking, Dagenham and before that, Tower Hamlets</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve certainly haven&#8217;t noticed the racial tension in places like Eltham and Lewisham match those levels in East London and in places like Burnley and particularly Oldham </p>
<p>Nick Griffin won 16% of the vote here in 2001 &#8211; his best performance at a general election</p>
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		<title>By: H.Hemmelig</title>
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		<dc:creator>H.Hemmelig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right.  The families interviewed were articulate and seemed either skilled working class or lower middle class.

There are many working class areas in London where white and non-white live together in significant numbers without much racial tension.  I live adjacent to Catford, Sydenham and Downham which all fit that description.

Maybe the difference is that these areas contain a lot of black people but not many Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right.  The families interviewed were articulate and seemed either skilled working class or lower middle class.</p>
<p>There are many working class areas in London where white and non-white live together in significant numbers without much racial tension.  I live adjacent to Catford, Sydenham and Downham which all fit that description.</p>
<p>Maybe the difference is that these areas contain a lot of black people but not many Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Their views don’t surprise me that much because in poor and economically depressed areas it’s so much easier for those kinds of views to come to the surface than in wealthy areas.&#039;

Oldham certainly fits that description (one has to go there to see just how run-down it is) but what surprised me most was that the kids expressing these views - and this relates to both whites and Asians - didn&#039;t seem to be from exclusively deprived backgrounds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Their views don’t surprise me that much because in poor and economically depressed areas it’s so much easier for those kinds of views to come to the surface than in wealthy areas.&#8217;</p>
<p>Oldham certainly fits that description (one has to go there to see just how run-down it is) but what surprised me most was that the kids expressing these views &#8211; and this relates to both whites and Asians &#8211; didn&#8217;t seem to be from exclusively deprived backgrounds</p>
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		<title>By: Andy JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the programme. It&#039;s an interesting idea to merge the schools. I hope it is successful to some extent. Their views don&#039;t surprise me that much because in poor and economically depressed areas it&#039;s so much easier for those kinds of views to come to the surface than in wealthy areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the programme. It&#8217;s an interesting idea to merge the schools. I hope it is successful to some extent. Their views don&#8217;t surprise me that much because in poor and economically depressed areas it&#8217;s so much easier for those kinds of views to come to the surface than in wealthy areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Did anyone see that report on Newsnight last night about the racial segregation of Oldham, and the attempts to solve the problem by merging a school in a white area with one in an Asian area?&#039;

I did and I found the attitudes of both sets of children - white and Asian - very disheartening but most of all surprising

It would be tempting to say that although the capital city London is becoming atypical of the UK as a whole. The last election demonstrated that but i think in this case it&#039;s Oldham which stands out as unique

There was obviously the race riots prior to the 2001 election, which saw Nick Griffin stand as a candidate, but I remember a documentary Darkus Howe did around the same time, attempting to find out how racist the UK was - and I remember then he said that of all the towns he visited, Oldham was the one which he found the most racist

I think he also went to other towns similarly affected

The one thing these places do have in common (apart from high levels of immigrant communities) - Oldham, Burnley, Blackburn, Dagenham, Barking - is a great deal of unemployment, poverty and urban deprivation - factors which the far right have always fed off

What was most shocking about Oldham was that it was ordinary, everyday school kids from all sorts of walks of life, who held these views - almost monolithically too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Did anyone see that report on Newsnight last night about the racial segregation of Oldham, and the attempts to solve the problem by merging a school in a white area with one in an Asian area?&#8217;</p>
<p>I did and I found the attitudes of both sets of children &#8211; white and Asian &#8211; very disheartening but most of all surprising</p>
<p>It would be tempting to say that although the capital city London is becoming atypical of the UK as a whole. The last election demonstrated that but i think in this case it&#8217;s Oldham which stands out as unique</p>
<p>There was obviously the race riots prior to the 2001 election, which saw Nick Griffin stand as a candidate, but I remember a documentary Darkus Howe did around the same time, attempting to find out how racist the UK was &#8211; and I remember then he said that of all the towns he visited, Oldham was the one which he found the most racist</p>
<p>I think he also went to other towns similarly affected</p>
<p>The one thing these places do have in common (apart from high levels of immigrant communities) &#8211; Oldham, Burnley, Blackburn, Dagenham, Barking &#8211; is a great deal of unemployment, poverty and urban deprivation &#8211; factors which the far right have always fed off</p>
<p>What was most shocking about Oldham was that it was ordinary, everyday school kids from all sorts of walks of life, who held these views &#8211; almost monolithically too</p>
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		<title>By: abs</title>
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		<dc:creator>abs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well you would describe it as being anal am just pointing out that they are two v different things and assimilation has some negative connotations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well you would describe it as being anal am just pointing out that they are two v different things and assimilation has some negative connotations</p>
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		<title>By: H.Hemmelig</title>
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		<dc:creator>H.Hemmelig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re going to be anal you should at least make sure you can spell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re going to be anal you should at least make sure you can spell.</p>
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