Liverpool Wavertree
2010 Results:
Conservative: 2830 (7.41%)
Labour: 20132 (53.1%)
Liberal Democrat: 12965 (33.93%)
BNP: 150 (0.39%)
UKIP: 890 (2.33%)
Green: 598 (1.56%)
Socialist Labour: 200 (0.52%)
Independent: 149 (0.39%)
Majority: 7167 (19.17%)
Notional 2005 Results:
Labour: 17060 (49%)
Liberal Democrat: 14022 (40.3%)
Conservative: 2500 (7.2%)
Other: 1207 (3.5%)
Majority: 3038 (8.7%)
Actual 2005 result
Conservative: 2331 (6.6%)
Labour: 18441 (52.4%)
Liberal Democrat: 13268 (37.7%)
UKIP: 660 (1.9%)
Other: 471 (1.3%)
Majority: 5173 (14.7%)
2001 Result
Conservative: 3091 (9.6%)
Labour: 20155 (62.7%)
Liberal Democrat: 7836 (24.4%)
UKIP: 348 (1.1%)
Other: 708 (2.2%)
Majority: 12319 (38.3%)
1997 Result
Conservative: 4944 (10.8%)
Labour: 29592 (64.4%)
Liberal Democrat: 9891 (21.5%)
Referendum: 576 (1.3%)
Other: 915 (2%)
Majority: 19701 (42.9%)
Boundary changes:
Profile:
Current MP: Luciana Berger (Labour) Born London. Educated at Birmingham University.
Andrew Garnett (Conservative) born 1971, Liverpool. Educated at St Margarets CE High School and Manchester Metropolitan University. Compliance officer. Chiltern councillor since 2006.Luciana Berger (Labour) Born London. Educated at Birmingham University.Colin Eldridge (Liberal Democrat) born 1977. Educated at St Bartholomew`s Newbury and the University of the West of England. Freelance sales and marketing executive. Bristol City councillor between 1998-2001. Contested Woodspring in 2001, Liverpool Wavertree in 2005.Rebecca Lawson (Green) Born Cumbria. Psychology lecturer.Neil Miney (UKIP)Steven McEllenborough (BNP) Kim Singleton (Socialist Labour) Frank Dunne (Independent)2001 Census Demographics
Total 2001 Population: 88192
Male: 47.4%
Female: 52.6%
Under 18: 22.3%
Over 60: 19.3%
Born outside UK: 6.1%
White: 92.1%
Black: 1.8%
Asian: 1.5%
Mixed: 2.5%
Other: 2.1%
Christian: 77.1%
Jewish: 1.3%
Muslim: 1.9%
Full time students: 10.4%
Graduates 16-74: 19%
No Qualifications 16-74: 33.1%
Owner-Occupied: 58.9%
Social Housing: 21.7% (Council: 7.8%, Housing Ass.: 13.9%)
Privately Rented: 17%
Homes without central heating and/or private bathroom: 28.2%
Warren Bradley has resigned as Lib Dem leader on Liverpool City council over allegations that he nominated his own son as an election candidate without his knowledge.
I don’t know what will come of the fraud allegations themselves, but it seems to me rather a strange relationship with his son if he never spoke to him about putting him up as a paper candidate before nominations?
It also seems strange to me that his son should continue to pursue allegations that he was not aware that he was standing as a candidate even when he knew it would be so damaging to his father.
You’d have thought they’d have talked about it privately before getting it into a very public and possibly criminal row.
Perhaps Bradley would have been better spending his time in organising his own business rather than in grandstanding to the media about Clegg.
Is it not a myth that the Liberal vote in Labour areas is more left wing.
Is it not evident that centre right Liberals do well against Labour and centre left Liberals against the Tories.
Lib Dems in a seat like Wells or Kingston & Surbiton could be well to the left of Lib Dems in somewhere like Rochdale.
Well its a fact that the LibDem strongholds in areas like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield and Newcastle are the former Conservative strongholds.
So the LibDem vote in these places is certainly more middle class than Labour’s is.
Although most of this middle class vote is public sector or wealth consuming generally.
Labour gets the public sector working class and underclass vote.
So the cities are one area where voting is still strongly along class lines.
At least in local elections.
Cllr Gary Millar (Old Swan ward) has defected from the Lib Dems and joined the Labour Group. He becomes an Asst Cabinet Member.
Shaun – there is more to the family life issues in the Bradley household than should be rightly gone into on a site like this (I prefer to leave such things to the people themselves). Revelations last year known across Liverpool politics but perhaps not wider afield make the fact that the son pursued it not much of a surprise.
Cllr Richard Kemp (Church ward) was unavailable for comment after the Daily Express questioned him claiming thousands in overnight expenses from the LGA when he owns a flat in London and has been on the Electoral Roll for the past 5 years.
Cllr Richard Kemp (Church ward) was unavailable for comment over his LGA expenses. The Daily Express revealed he claimed thousands in overnight stays in London when he owns a flat in London and has been on the Electoral Roll for the past 5 years.
“Lib Dems in a seat like Wells or Kingston & Surbiton could be well to the left of Lib Dems in somewhere like Rochdale. ”
Entirely agree.
Definately LibDem voters as in Rochdale many will be natural Conservatives and in Surbiton many will be natural Labour supporters.
I dare say that LibDem supporters in Rochdale might have more ‘right-wing’ views on immigration and crime (if they are WWC) or homosexuality (if they are Muslim) than middle class LibDems in Surbiton.
I think the LD vote in those sorts of areas would quite likely be people who are Conservative but have been given the impression that the Conservatives are not for them,
whereas a Lib Dem in South West London will quite likely be of the sanctimonious, anti establishment middle class type.
This would have been my impression too, but one is finding from local government by-elections that it is the northern industrial areas where the LDs are losing most support to Labour, while holding up relatively well in southern middle class areas. It is counter-intuitive when one assumes that a large part of the LD vote is a tactical vote from one or other of the two main parties. IN Rochdale in particular there have also been problems with a large number of Lib Dem councillors breaking away in protest against the coalition government. Clearly these (along with other defectors in places like LIverpool and Stockport) either see themselves as closer to Labour tthan the Tories, or think their voters are. A much clearer pattern should ermerge on thursday.
Well, we’ll see.
The very sensible Liz Lynne is a million miles away from your sanctimonious smearing Lib Dem of the type you come across in most places,
so it clearly is a different kind of vote in the areas Richard and Pete referred to.
a lot of places
Labour polled 80 – 90% in some Liverpool wards!
Lord Storey has just lost his seat to an 18-year-old!
The infighting between Bradley and his own colleagues damaged the Lib Dems in their heartland…without doubt if labour targeted Church and Woolton sooner they might have won there too. Since the election the lib dems are in disarray, They asked if the substitute rules be extended to all their group rather than a named cllr – then at the full council they tried to block ward governance too deliver needed funds to the most deprived half of the city
2011 local election results for this seat (with 2010 change)
Lab 55.9% (+11.6%)
LD 27.1% (-12.1%)
Con 5.5% (-0.5%)
Oth 11.4% (+1.2%)
LD win in Church, Labour took everything else, including a few gains. Of particular note is the vanishing LD vote in kensington and fairfield, from 29% in 2010 to 6% in 2011!
The LibDems got 41.2% in K&F in 2008 and over 50% there in 2004.
There appear to be defections here on a monthly basis! I neglected to mention that Wavertree ward Cllr Warren Bradley now sits in an Ind Group of 2. Larry Sidorczuk who was Pictom ward Cllr til last year, resigned from the LibDems last month. He applied to join Labour, but then withdrew his appn upon returning from holiday.
I think Bradley’s defection was quite well-publicised though, more so than most of the ones you’ve told us about, but thanks for your diligent work telling us about these defections. It’s possible to get a lot of info on by-election results from ALDC, but for some reason they are rather reticent about reporting defections from, rather than to, the Lib Dems!
Barnaby – his suspension from the LibDems was publicised, but not his Ind group of 2, with his new girlfriend Cllr Sharon Green. I suspect local journos thought he’d suffered enough. Interestingly, she seems to have been elected due to her surname. The other 2 in that ward are Green Party Cllrs, hence ‘Vote Green’ being a winning slogan every year in St Michaels ward.
The unpopularty of the Lib Dems does not seem to be damaging the Liberal Party. At present they seem confined to a single ward.
The Liberal Party is left of the Lib Dems and Labour on social economic policies but right of the Conservatives on Europe.
If the Lib Dems have been damaged in the longterm in Liverpool is there potential for the Liberal Party as Labours local honeymoon period comes to an end?
Dalek – the Liberal vote also fell in every Lpool ward, so I think the liberal brand is damaged. I think the Green Party is more likely to benefit from LD demise. Their vote rose in several wards and they are now challenging in Princes Park and Greenbank wards. The Tories should have taken advantage in Woolton, Allerton etc but their candidates never live in the wards.
I’ve very rarely visited Liverpool, but I did a few years ago to visit Speke Hall & Lennon & McCartney’s childhood homes. While Woolton (Lennon) seems to be an almost entirely owner-occupied, semi-detached area, Allerton (McCartney) has a large amount of council-built housing (including Paul’s house) and I’d have thought that if anything Childwall might be a better potential area for the Tories.
It’s rather ironic that the airport is named after John Lennon seeing that it was McCartney who was actually resident in Speke at the time of his birth.
Barnaby – no, Allerton is far better. Indeed, the pre-2004 Allerton ward was the Tories best result in Lpool in 2 years. Childwall was quite a Tory and Jewish area in the ’80s however. (Many Jewish families moved to Manchester in the ’90s)
That I am familiar with, having once known a member of the Jewish community in Childwall. However, I myself haven’t had any relatives in Liverpool, but loads in Manchester (excluding my cousin who was a Rabbi in Liverpool a few years ago, and is now a Rabbi in Reading).
I once read that, outside of the big conurbations, Bournemouth has the highest proportion of Jewish people. I’m not sure whether that’s still true.
Arguably Bournemouth (with Poole) is a conurbation, but in anyc ase the 2001 figure was only 1%. It was higher than that in Southernd (1.7%) and Brighton (1.4%). Presumably you would count areas like Epping Forest and Hertsmere as being part of the London conurbation. One of the greatest concentratioms these days must be in Shenley which is more or less a rural ward
Bournemouth has a reputation of having quite a large Jewish community, and it comes as something of a surprise to learn that Brighton & Hove apparently has a larger one – the latter community is unable to sustain a Kosher butcher, for example, though there are still several synagogues there of various denominations, mainly in Hove. Southend is a fairly popular destination for Jews of more working-class, East End origin just as it is for non-Jewish working-class East Enders but several other significant seaside resorts have an organized Jewish community, though they tend to be small in most (eg Blackpool/St Annes, Margate, Eastbourne, Worthing).
It’s interesting in many respects that these large Jewish communities once existed in quite disparate places and have now to all intents vanished.
I know my dad used to tell me that in my home town, Llandudno, there used to be a large Jewish community (to the extent Llandudno was called Llanyidno by some). At its height after the war it was some 600 strong I believe (the town itself then was only 12,000) and many of the most well-known businesses in town (Wartski’s Jewellers, Lazar’s Department Store etc.) were Jewish-owned. There were several Jewish hotels as well. The community had been bolstered in the war by the fact that the Inland Revenue was entirely evacuated to Llandudno and the Ministry of Food to Colwyn Bay next door, so many civil servants moved from London and eventually went back. Many Jewish residents later retired to places like Hertsmere (I believe the Lazar family moved down that way at least). It’s quite fascinating social history.
Proposed Wavertree:
Allerton
Childwall
Church
Cressington
Mossley Hill
Wavertree
Woolton
Ultra middle class – what would the LibDems have given to have these boundaries last year.
And very similar to Pete Whitehead’s idea for a safe Conservative seat during the 1980s.
These boundaries appear even more ‘middle class’ than the Wavertree abolished in 1983.
Tories may do better in Liverpool with the collapse of the Lib Dems. Obviously not in terms of gaining seats
but if the new boundaries were 42% Lib Dem, 38% Labour and 12% Tory that could become something like 50% Labour, 21% Lib Dem and 17% Tory in 2015 due to the unwinding effect of tacticle voting.
Yes I think that is pretty much my old plannerd Wavertree which would have been safely Tory in 1983 and where they would now in about 10-15%. I think even the LDs would have failed to win this in 2010
Yes…if created in 2010 it would have actually have been a notional Labour Gain from Lib Dem.
Interesting new boundaries. Would the lib dems have won this seat in 2005?
Looking through this constituency’s thread raised a wry smile for me, as I was at Uni with Colin Eldridge – last I knew he was a Councillor in Bristol (I believe he was for a time the youngest in the country), so interesting to see how his political career has developed in the years since we used to chat all things political!
The proposed new seat is good, although it certainly shouldn’t be called Wavertree as 90% isn’t and part of the district of Wavertree isn’t included either. Lpool South or Lpool Suburbs even.
Based on the seven proposed wards making up the constituency, the local council results for 2010 and 2011 were as follows:
2010:
Labour – 34.2%
Lib Dem – 45.5%
Cons – 12.3%
2011:
Labour – 47.5%
Lib Dem – 32.5%
Cons – 10.7%
A former colleague who lives here received an SDP leaflet! I wonder if any ex LibDems have formed a local branch? I thought they only existed in East Yorks and Neath, but they did have a Lpool Cllr til 1995.
Labour must be concerned about the boundary changes because the proposed consitituency is even better for the Lib Dems than the 2010 changes.
The prooposed boundaries would have just have gone Lib Dem by around 200 in 2005 but would have been regained by Labour by some 4000 in 2010.
I doubt that.
Anyway, I think the redrawn Wavertree constiuency would be better named Liverpool Allerton as the LDs are proposing.
Which bit do you doubt? I don’t doubt that the proposed seat would have gone LD in 2005. If you mean you doubt that Labour are concerned that would probably be right. The LDs chances of winning a seat in Liverpool however favourably drawn are gone for at least a generation
Former MP Jane Kennedy is seeking selection to be Labour candidate in the Merseyside police commissioner election
Herbert of Liverpool (Herbert Howe) has announced his intention to stand as an Independent candidate to be Liverpool’s first directly elected Mayor. He’s a local celebrity and entrepreneur, who was featured in a docusoap. He pledges not to take a salary.
Cllr Warren Bradley has been charged (re false declaration witnessing his son’s signature on his Nomination paper) and is due to appear in Court on 9th March.