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		<title>By: P.U.M.P</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/edinburghnorthandleith/comment-page-5/#comment-282408</link>
		<dc:creator>P.U.M.P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch the Lab. maj. increase substantially at the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch the Lab. maj. increase substantially at the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: A Cairns</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/edinburghnorthandleith/comment-page-5/#comment-282048</link>
		<dc:creator>A Cairns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon Donald Dewar knew what he was doing but unfortunately the problem was that Labour did not embrace devolution in Scotland soon enough leading to the rise of the SNP at Holyrood by default.

Having got the holyrood election a bit wrong (expecting a close run thing rather than a landslide) I now think the SNP will be in power to at least 2020.

Can’t see independence happening though, it is more likely Salmond goes for some extra powers fudge. If the SNP was serious about independence they would set up a non partisan convention on it, instead full blown independence would probably get hammered like the AV referendum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon Donald Dewar knew what he was doing but unfortunately the problem was that Labour did not embrace devolution in Scotland soon enough leading to the rise of the SNP at Holyrood by default.</p>
<p>Having got the holyrood election a bit wrong (expecting a close run thing rather than a landslide) I now think the SNP will be in power to at least 2020.</p>
<p>Can’t see independence happening though, it is more likely Salmond goes for some extra powers fudge. If the SNP was serious about independence they would set up a non partisan convention on it, instead full blown independence would probably get hammered like the AV referendum.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the long term, it probably would have done the Scottish tories more good.&quot;

Perhaps. But I think its now becomming clearer and clearer from a UK perspective that devolution is a really bad idea. Ironically, Labour supported Scottish devolution to kill Scottish nationalism. But if Scotland now goes independent in a couple of years (which I still believe strongly that it won&#039;t by the way) it will be DIRECTLY the fault of the Labour party and the devolution they delivered.

On this, as on other constitutional reform, the lesson is that the left really ought to think their ideas through a bit more; and that doing nothing is ALWAYS better than introducing reform that might go wrong. The watch words for the future has surely got to be that &#039;doing nothing is always an option&#039;.

&quot;using the same boundaries as Westminster seats and seperate seats for Orkney and Shetland&quot;

Yes I think thats right. But whilst we&#039;re on the subject, no doubt its been discussed before (and apologies if that is the case) but why exactly DO Orkney and Shetland have to have seperate seats? Is it suddenly impossible to represent them together after hundreds of years doing so? Surely if there is any anomoly that needs looking at in the scottish parliament constituencies it is this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the long term, it probably would have done the Scottish tories more good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps. But I think its now becomming clearer and clearer from a UK perspective that devolution is a really bad idea. Ironically, Labour supported Scottish devolution to kill Scottish nationalism. But if Scotland now goes independent in a couple of years (which I still believe strongly that it won&#8217;t by the way) it will be DIRECTLY the fault of the Labour party and the devolution they delivered.</p>
<p>On this, as on other constitutional reform, the lesson is that the left really ought to think their ideas through a bit more; and that doing nothing is ALWAYS better than introducing reform that might go wrong. The watch words for the future has surely got to be that &#8216;doing nothing is always an option&#8217;.</p>
<p>&#8220;using the same boundaries as Westminster seats and seperate seats for Orkney and Shetland&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes I think thats right. But whilst we&#8217;re on the subject, no doubt its been discussed before (and apologies if that is the case) but why exactly DO Orkney and Shetland have to have seperate seats? Is it suddenly impossible to represent them together after hundreds of years doing so? Surely if there is any anomoly that needs looking at in the scottish parliament constituencies it is this?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the referendum had passed, Labour probably would have continued onto an election in October 1979 which the Conservatives would have won. 

In the long term, it probably would have done the Scottish tories more good. 

But I thought the origional Scotland Act 1978 proposed a Scottish Assembly with just 73 seats, using the same boundaries as Westminster seats and seperate seats for Orkney and Shetland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the referendum had passed, Labour probably would have continued onto an election in October 1979 which the Conservatives would have won. </p>
<p>In the long term, it probably would have done the Scottish tories more good. </p>
<p>But I thought the origional Scotland Act 1978 proposed a Scottish Assembly with just 73 seats, using the same boundaries as Westminster seats and seperate seats for Orkney and Shetland.</p>
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		<title>By: Calum W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calum W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the referendum had been accepted to be won in 1979, electoral history would have gone down a totally different track. The SNP probably wouldn&#039;t have been in turmoil in the 80s as there wouldn&#039;t have been a breakaway &#039;79 group, the Callaghan government wouldn&#039;t have been brought down in a no confidence vote (though whether the outcome of the UK GE would have changed much is open to much pointless debate). There would either have been less animosity to the Thatcher government in Scotland as the Parliament would have lessened the &#039;no mandate&#039; argument, or alternatively the assembly would have been seen as the frontline of defence against tory policies and would have forced Labour to be effective in assembly or face the possibility of the SNP taking control and independence passing in a referendum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the referendum had been accepted to be won in 1979, electoral history would have gone down a totally different track. The SNP probably wouldn&#8217;t have been in turmoil in the 80s as there wouldn&#8217;t have been a breakaway &#8217;79 group, the Callaghan government wouldn&#8217;t have been brought down in a no confidence vote (though whether the outcome of the UK GE would have changed much is open to much pointless debate). There would either have been less animosity to the Thatcher government in Scotland as the Parliament would have lessened the &#8216;no mandate&#8217; argument, or alternatively the assembly would have been seen as the frontline of defence against tory policies and would have forced Labour to be effective in assembly or face the possibility of the SNP taking control and independence passing in a referendum.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Campaign for the Scottish Assembly in 1987/ 1988 proposed a FPTP Scottish Parliament of 144 members (2 seats for every Westminster constituency).

Don&#039;t know whether this would be 2 members elected in every constituency or the constituencies being split in two.

Assuming the latter being applied in 1981, the Conservatives would still have won Glasgow Cathcart that year because Glasgow Castlemilk would have been partitioned as a safe Labour seat.

By contrast, Labour would have won Glasgow Partick (partitioned from Glasgow Hillhead).

The partition of Stirlingshire West would have been interesting - Stirlingshire SW would be a very safe Labour seat and Stirlingshire NW would be a Tory.

Dunbartonshire West would have gone Tory with Dumbarton being partitioned off.

Dundee Broughty Ferry would have become an SNP/ Tory contest as it was divided from East Central Dundee.

The partition of Glasgow Pollok would have created a Tory marginal in Glasgow Pollokshields.

Edinburgh Pentlands would have become a safe Labour seat of Edinburgh Sighthill and a safe Tory seat of Edinburgh Colington.

I assume that in 1985 there would have been boundary changes following the 1983 westminster review.

If you use the 1986 Regional Council elections as a basis, may of the Conservative FPTP seats would have been lost in the mid 1980&#039;s.

In Glasgow for example, Labour would have won Glasgow Pollokshields, Glasgow Cathcart and the SDP Glasgow Kelvinside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Campaign for the Scottish Assembly in 1987/ 1988 proposed a FPTP Scottish Parliament of 144 members (2 seats for every Westminster constituency).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know whether this would be 2 members elected in every constituency or the constituencies being split in two.</p>
<p>Assuming the latter being applied in 1981, the Conservatives would still have won Glasgow Cathcart that year because Glasgow Castlemilk would have been partitioned as a safe Labour seat.</p>
<p>By contrast, Labour would have won Glasgow Partick (partitioned from Glasgow Hillhead).</p>
<p>The partition of Stirlingshire West would have been interesting &#8211; Stirlingshire SW would be a very safe Labour seat and Stirlingshire NW would be a Tory.</p>
<p>Dunbartonshire West would have gone Tory with Dumbarton being partitioned off.</p>
<p>Dundee Broughty Ferry would have become an SNP/ Tory contest as it was divided from East Central Dundee.</p>
<p>The partition of Glasgow Pollok would have created a Tory marginal in Glasgow Pollokshields.</p>
<p>Edinburgh Pentlands would have become a safe Labour seat of Edinburgh Sighthill and a safe Tory seat of Edinburgh Colington.</p>
<p>I assume that in 1985 there would have been boundary changes following the 1983 westminster review.</p>
<p>If you use the 1986 Regional Council elections as a basis, may of the Conservative FPTP seats would have been lost in the mid 1980&#8242;s.</p>
<p>In Glasgow for example, Labour would have won Glasgow Pollokshields, Glasgow Cathcart and the SDP Glasgow Kelvinside.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/edinburghnorthandleith/comment-page-5/#comment-281318</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered what the results and political make up of Scotland what have been if the devolution referendum had passed in 1979. 

We&#039;ll asume the first election would have been in 1981 and the Scottish assembly would have had 73 members elected for fixed four year terms using FPTP on the same consitiuency boundaries as Westminster seats, with seperate seats for Orkney and Shetland. 

I&#039;m guessing Labour would have formed a majoirty administration from 1981 till 2009 when the SNP would have took over. The official opposition would have been the tories from 81-93, the Lib Dems from 93-05, and the SNP from 05-09. But that&#039;s only educated guesswork. 

And I can only assume Thatchers relationship with the Scottish executive would have been just as hostile as the relationship she had with the GLC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered what the results and political make up of Scotland what have been if the devolution referendum had passed in 1979. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll asume the first election would have been in 1981 and the Scottish assembly would have had 73 members elected for fixed four year terms using FPTP on the same consitiuency boundaries as Westminster seats, with seperate seats for Orkney and Shetland. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing Labour would have formed a majoirty administration from 1981 till 2009 when the SNP would have took over. The official opposition would have been the tories from 81-93, the Lib Dems from 93-05, and the SNP from 05-09. But that&#8217;s only educated guesswork. </p>
<p>And I can only assume Thatchers relationship with the Scottish executive would have been just as hostile as the relationship she had with the GLC.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Whitehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably Berwickshire, Roxburh &amp; Selkirk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably Berwickshire, Roxburh &amp; Selkirk</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asume the one Lib Dem seat is Orkney and Shetland. But what&#039;s the one tory seat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asume the one Lib Dem seat is Orkney and Shetland. But what&#8217;s the one tory seat?</p>
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		<title>By: Calum W</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/edinburghnorthandleith/comment-page-5/#comment-281296</link>
		<dc:creator>Calum W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East would&#039;ve been SNP? The SNP majority in Cumbernauld and Kilsyth was nearly 3,500 and I don&#039;t see how that could&#039;ve been overturned by the addition of Kirkintilloch, which was also in an SNP seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East would&#8217;ve been SNP? The SNP majority in Cumbernauld and Kilsyth was nearly 3,500 and I don&#8217;t see how that could&#8217;ve been overturned by the addition of Kirkintilloch, which was also in an SNP seat.</p>
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