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	<title>Comments on: Birmingham Selly Oak</title>
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		<title>By: GT</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/birminghamsellyoak/comment-page-3/#comment-266042</link>
		<dc:creator>GT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sense is that the trade unions played a very strong below the radar campaign in many seats. Targetting public sector workers to turn out.

This could have been enough to edge up turnout.
In the Midlands I saw union sponsored posters - but none in the South East.

The weak organisation of many local parties of all colours did not help their causes - Labour in the south and the Conservatives further north.

This may explain differences between recent local election with low turnout and the General Election results in selected seats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sense is that the trade unions played a very strong below the radar campaign in many seats. Targetting public sector workers to turn out.</p>
<p>This could have been enough to edge up turnout.<br />
In the Midlands I saw union sponsored posters &#8211; but none in the South East.</p>
<p>The weak organisation of many local parties of all colours did not help their causes &#8211; Labour in the south and the Conservatives further north.</p>
<p>This may explain differences between recent local election with low turnout and the General Election results in selected seats.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnaby JL Marder</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/birminghamsellyoak/comment-page-3/#comment-266041</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnaby JL Marder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Liverpool John? Ticket-splitting on a grand scale (although Labour&#039;s local performances are improving sharply).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Liverpool John? Ticket-splitting on a grand scale (although Labour&#8217;s local performances are improving sharply).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe James B</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/birminghamsellyoak/comment-page-3/#comment-266037</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe James B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s your view of why they do this split voting John?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s your view of why they do this split voting John?</p>
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		<title>By: John Chanin</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/birminghamsellyoak/comment-page-3/#comment-266035</link>
		<dc:creator>John Chanin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe James a lot of Labour voters don&#039;t vote in council elections right across the country.

In Birmingham many of them vote Conservative at local elections (particularly in Bartley Green).   Having lived in many places, I believe there is more split voting in Birmingham than anywhere else I have lived.  Indeed I split my own votes.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe James a lot of Labour voters don&#8217;t vote in council elections right across the country.</p>
<p>In Birmingham many of them vote Conservative at local elections (particularly in Bartley Green).   Having lived in many places, I believe there is more split voting in Birmingham than anywhere else I have lived.  Indeed I split my own votes&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Joe James B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe James B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have thought it was worth the Tories trying again here (depending on how it&#039;s drawn).
It&#039;s still a marginal seat.

But I agree predicting Tory wins from local elections in Birmingham (and other parts of the core West Midlands) is very risky indeed,
and I was over confident about some seats.

The Tories underperformed in 1992 vs 1991 aswell
even 1987 against the local elections in May.

For some reason, a lot of Labour voters don&#039;t vote in the council elections in the W Midlands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have thought it was worth the Tories trying again here (depending on how it&#8217;s drawn).<br />
It&#8217;s still a marginal seat.</p>
<p>But I agree predicting Tory wins from local elections in Birmingham (and other parts of the core West Midlands) is very risky indeed,<br />
and I was over confident about some seats.</p>
<p>The Tories underperformed in 1992 vs 1991 aswell<br />
even 1987 against the local elections in May.</p>
<p>For some reason, a lot of Labour voters don&#8217;t vote in the council elections in the W Midlands.</p>
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		<title>By: John Chanin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Chanin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astonishing how silent this thread is after the election, when the Conservatives were so gung ho before the election. The 4.8% swing was less than average,and in line with results in Northfield, Edgbaston and Hall Green. 

South Birmingham is indeed volatile but rather less so at general elections than local elections.  Both Billesley and Brandwood were won by Labour at the simultaneous local elections.  Selly Oak ward itself is now a student ghetto like Headingly in Leeds, and votes accordingly.  I don&#039;t think £7000 tuition fees are going to recommend the Conservatives somehow.  

Even in Bournville the Kraft takeover means there is no feelgood factor. It was always the case that despite the boundary changes the Conservatives had a much better chance in Northfield. Short of armageddon they are never going to win this seat again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astonishing how silent this thread is after the election, when the Conservatives were so gung ho before the election. The 4.8% swing was less than average,and in line with results in Northfield, Edgbaston and Hall Green. </p>
<p>South Birmingham is indeed volatile but rather less so at general elections than local elections.  Both Billesley and Brandwood were won by Labour at the simultaneous local elections.  Selly Oak ward itself is now a student ghetto like Headingly in Leeds, and votes accordingly.  I don&#8217;t think £7000 tuition fees are going to recommend the Conservatives somehow.  </p>
<p>Even in Bournville the Kraft takeover means there is no feelgood factor. It was always the case that despite the boundary changes the Conservatives had a much better chance in Northfield. Short of armageddon they are never going to win this seat again.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Whitehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 23:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wouldn&#039;t have been because it wasn&#039;t part of Birmingham then - not least because it didn&#039;t exist, but the area then was in Worcestershire and part of the Worcestershire East constituency. From 1918 to 1955 it was in Kings Norton and from 1955-74 in Northfield. Selly Oak since 1974.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wouldn&#8217;t have been because it wasn&#8217;t part of Birmingham then &#8211; not least because it didn&#8217;t exist, but the area then was in Worcestershire and part of the Worcestershire East constituency. From 1918 to 1955 it was in Kings Norton and from 1955-74 in Northfield. Selly Oak since 1974.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 20:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which seats have included Bournville ward? It must have been in the multi-seat Birmingham constituency until 1885, not sure about after then</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which seats have included Bournville ward? It must have been in the multi-seat Birmingham constituency until 1885, not sure about after then</p>
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		<title>By: Barnaby JL Marder</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/birminghamsellyoak/comment-page-3/#comment-253717</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnaby JL Marder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 09:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LAB HOLD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAB HOLD</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 13:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of Liberal Democrat posters up around here, especially in the student areas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of Liberal Democrat posters up around here, especially in the student areas!</p>
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