A question that often pops up in the comments here – and in wider political commentary – is whether Labour “should be doing better”. This actually covers two different questions. One is “Should X be doing better…in order to win the election?“, the second is “Should X be doing better…given the current circumstances?“. The answers to the two questions are not necessarily the same – for example, a party with very favourable circumstances could be ahead in the polls and in an election winning position… but really could be doing even better than that (and vice-versa, in a really unfavourable political environment not being hammered too badly could the best position a party could realistically hope for!)

Let’s deal with the first question first – are Labour doing well enough to win the next election?

When people ask this question they obviously don’t mean “if there was an election tomorrow would their level of support give them a majority”. That’s a simple swing calculation, and while neck-and-neck isn’t enough for Labour, they’ve often had the necessary small leads to win an overall majority on current boundaries. No, the question means are they far enough ahead assuming they drop back to some degree as the election approaches?

I should say from the outset that I’m really not a fan of arguments about oppositions needing to be x points ahead midterm to win the next election; it implies a certain inevitability of polling movements in the run up to the election that simply doesn’t exist. That said, there is a an obvious pattern in historical movements of polls: when oppositions open up large leads in the mid term they normally fall back by the time of the next election. Oppositions that have gone on to win the next election have normally enjoyed mid-term leads of 20 points or more, oppositions with lower leads mid-terms have generally ended up losing.

What this does not mean, however, is that an opposition that doesn’t have a big lead currently might not get one in the future. While successful oppositions have had large leads, it doesn’t follow they’ve had large leads all the time. For example, the Conservative opposition in 1974-1979 did enjoy 20+ point leads, but only briefly after the IMF bailout and the winter of discontent. For most of the 1974-79 Parliament the Conservatives had far more modest leads. In the 1959-1964 Parliament the ultimately victorious Labour opposition was still behind in the polls in 1960 and early 1961, very large Labour leads didn’t emerge until 1963.

So being neck-and-neck now doesn’t mean Labour can’t do better later in the Parliament. That said, the fact they haven’t got a big lead now, isn’t particularly positive. Under normal circumstances they would have to up their game significantly to be in a position comparable to those historical oppositions who have gone on to win. However, these are not normal circumstances.

The normal pattern of public opinion during a Parliament is that governments get unpopular things done early and do popular things closer to the election. We expect to see people disappointed by the government drift away and register a protest by telling pollsters they would vote for the opposition (and doing so in mid-term local, European and by-elections). When the election itself comes close some of those people compare the alternative governments, decide the incumbent isn’t so bad compared to the alternative and government support recovers.

However, the narrowing of the polls so far in this Parliament seems to have very little to do with the usual mechanism. Conservative support has held up and Labour’s increase is almost all due to former Lib Dem supporters opposed to the coalition switching en masse to Labour. This could be more of a political realignment than mid-term blues and while it is possible that these supporters will drift back towards the Lib Dems as the election approaches, it equally possible that they will stick with Labour.

Under normal circumstances Labour’s paltry lead at the moment wouldn’t be enough to suggest they’ll go on to win the next election and the wise money would be on a Conservative victory next time round. Under present circumstances though… who knows?

The second version of the question is whether Labour are doing well or badly given the circumstances. I hate this question too, given it is impossible to measure and answers to it inevitably end up being entirely determined by the person answering’s views of Labour and their current policies or leader.

For what it’s worth though, the “doing badly” argument is that the coalition have announced drastic and unpopular cuts, are carrying out reforms to public services that polls suggest are unpopular and the economy is in a parlous state, with no immediate sign of improvement. Under these circumstances people would argue that the opposition should be doing very well, and that being neck-and-neck in the polls is a poor show or indicates some other problem with how voters see the opposition.

In contrast, the “doing well” argument is that Labour have just suffered one of their worst ever defeats. People have not forgiven them and it will take time for people to really give them a hearing. Under those circumstances, to be regularly polling 6-10 points above your general election score and neck-and-neck with the other main party isn’t that bad. Certainly it’s more than the Conservatives in 1997 could dream of.

Those would be the calculations under normal circumstances, but again, these are not normal circumstances. Labour’s increase of 6-10 points is almost wholly from the windfall gain of between a third and a half of those who voted Liberal Democrat at the last election. This happened pretty much without any input from Labour itself and they have gained minimal support beyond this.

Under normal circumstances it would be arguable that Labour were doing quite well given the situation, but probably not enough to win an election. Under the present circumstances one could well argue that Labour are not doing well at all, but if the realignment of Lib Dem support is stickier than normal mid term gains it’s possible it could be enough.


The full tables for YouGov’s weekly poll for the Sunday Times are now up here. As one might guess from five point Tory lead in voting intention, they are unremittingly dire for Ed Miliband.

On leader ratings David Cameron stands at minus 3 (from from 7 last week), Nick Clegg at minus 50 (from minus 49 last week) and Ed Miliband at minus 53, his worst so far and the first time he has dropped below Nick Clegg. Only 18% think Miliband is doing well, compared to 71% who think he is doing badly. Amongst Labour’s own supporters 50% now think Miliband is doing badly.

Asked if Labour had the right policies and the best leader for them, only 8% thought they had both. 31% think they have the right policies, but only 14% think they have the right leader. Even amongst the 31% who think they have the right policies (and are therefore must be somewhat well disposed towards them), three quarters think they don’t have the best leader for them. Only 24% of people, and only 26% of Labour’s own supporters, think that Miliband should lead the party into the next election.

Turning to Labour’s policies, YouGov asked how well people think they understand the Labour party’s position on the cuts. 37% say they understand it very (4%) or fairly well (37%). 54% say they don’t understand it well or don’t understand it at all. Asked about Labour’s decision to support the 1% cap on public sector pay rises, 50% said they agreed with the decision to not reverse the cap. Labour supporters were evenly split – 41% supporting the decision (and therefore the cap), 38% disagreeing with it.

As well as this there were a series of questions on the “Boris Island” airport, which generally speaking found people opposed to the idea by about 2 to 1. YouGov also found opposition to the idea of a new Royal Yacht – only 24% of people supported it, compared to 64% who were opposed (of the 24% who supported it, 62% thought the taxpayer should contribute, with 37% thinking it should be funded wholly from private funds)

Finally there were some questions on the Falkland Islands. 57% of people think they should remain British, 12% think they should be given to Argentina. Were the Islands to be invaded again today, 58% of people say they wouls support military action to defend them, 27% say they would oppose it.


Full tables for the YouGov/Sunday Times poll are now up here, covering Miliband’s leadership, Scottish independence, abortion, alcohol and shoplifting.

Last night I pondered whether the reason the polls were still close between Labour and the Conservatives was a lasting effect of the veto, or a reflection of Labour’s current troubles. The regular trackers in the YouGov poll would suggest the latter – government approval and David Cameron’s approval ratings are both falling back towards their pre-veto levels, government approval is back down to minus 26, David Cameron’s approval rating is back down to minus 10. In contrast, Ed Miliband’s figures get ever worse, dropping to minus 49 (from minus 46 a week ago). Amongst Labour’s own supporters only 46% think he is doing well, compared to 49% who think he is doing badly.

Asked if Miliband had the right policies to be Prime Minister and whether he looked or sounded like a Prime Minister, only 7% thought he both had the policies and the look/sound to be PM. 43% thought he had neither (including, as one would expect, most Tories). The interesting bit is the rest, only 4% thought he looked like a PM but didn’t have the right policies, 27% thought he had the right policies, but didn’t look or sound like a PM. Amongst Labour’s own supporters only 16% thought Miliband had the right policies and the right look/sound, 5% of Labour supporters thought he had the right look/sound but the wrong policies, 59% of Labour supporters thought he had the right policies but didn’t look or sound like a possible Prime Minister.

For all the discussion of Labour’s policy stance on the economy (though in the longer term, that will be extremely important too), this appears to be the ultimate problem with Ed Miliband – people don’t think he looks the part of Prime Minister. It is not, as John Humphrey’s suggested, anything as crude as Ed Miliband being “too ugly” to be Prime Minister (YouGov asked and only 10% agreed), but a general image. It backs up earllier findings like that in December when, despite Labour having been ahead in the polls for a year, only 17% of people and only 37% of Labour’s own supporters thought it likely that Ed Miliband would ever be Prime Minister. This is a real problem for Miliband – policies can be changed, it is extremely difficult to change the public’s perception of a leader once it has settled. Miliband’s ratings did get a good hike after hackgate last year, but it was purely temporary, Labour need to get something like that which sticks.

The rest of the poll covered Scottish independence (which I’ll do a seperate post on later),
attitudes towards alcohol pricing, lobbying, shoplifting and abortion.

On Alcohol pricing, people are pretty evenly split over cut-price promotions on alcohol – 47% think they are a good thing, 42% a bad thing. 53% oppose a minimum price on alcohol, 47% support it, although largely at at quite low levels. 30% would support a minimum pricing at the suggested 45p a unit or less (the equivalent of about £1 for a pint of beer), 17% would support a higher minimum price.

On shoplifting, 16% of people admitted that they had shoplifted at some point in their lives. 50% of people saw it as a less serious type of theft than burgulary or mugging, compared to 45% who thought it was about the same. Asked what the appropriate punishment should be for a first time shoplifter, 23% thought they should be given a caution, 30% a fine, 30% community service, 11% a jail sentence.

Finally YouGov asked about the time limit for abortion. 5% of people supported a higher limit, 34% supported the status quo of a 24 week limit, 37% supported reducing the time limit and 6% supported a total ban on abortions. As you often find on abortion questions, women were more likely than men to support a reduction in the time limit for abortion (49% of women supported a tighter limit, compared to 24% of men.)


The full tabs for YouGov’s poll are now up here. The topline figures for the poll were positive for Labour, showing them ahead again (though it remains to be seen if that’s just a blip), but the rest of the poll is less so.

On leader ratings David Cameron has his best scores since June, with a net approval of minus 6. Ed Miliband’s score is minus 31 (from minus 32 last week). Nick Clegg’s ratings have slumped to their worst ever, with a net rating of minus 55 (largely, it seems because Conservative supporters are giving him a mich more negative rating).

On the Euro summit, 56% of people still think it was right for Cameron to use the veto (slightly, but not significantly, down from 58% straight after the summit). On whether people would vote to leave the EU in a referendum the result was 41% leave, 41% go – quite a sharp shift from recent polling that had up to 50% in favour of Britain leaving the EU.

This doesn’t seem to be a particular surge in pro-European feeling (other questions in the poll were repeats from earlier polls and didn’t show a massive shift). It may have just been the question ordering in this poll leading to a more considered response – the referendum question came after a bank of questions asking whether people think various areas should be the responsiblity of Britain, the EU or shared between them. Large majorities of people think that things like immigration, justice, defence and employment rights should be decided by Britain alone, but there is more appetite for the EU having a role in things like the environment, foriegn policy and trade rules.

The rest of the poll asked about the leaderships of Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband. Unsurprisingly in the wake of the European summit the Liberal Democrats are seem as having less influence on the coalition than the last time YouGov asked. In September 48% of people though that the Lib Dems had a lot or a little influence in government, that has now fallen to 39%, with 54% thinking they have not a lot or none. 41% of people now think the coalition will last another year or less, 38% think it will last until just before or right up until the next planned election in 2015.

On Nick Clegg’s leadership, people like Chris Huhne, Danny Alexander and Tim Farron are all seen as people who would make worse leaders than Clegg, although as one might expect, large propotions of people say they don’t know enough about these people to say (rendering questions like this of rather limited use except for well known politicians). Vince Cable is seen as someone who would be a better leader than Clegg by 22% of people, a worse leader by 23%.

Turning to Ed Miliband’s leadership, his ratings have actually improved slightly since September, though overall they remain very poor. 21% of people think he has provided an effective opposition (up from 18% in September), 23% think he has made it clear what he stands for (up from 19% in September), 20% think he would be up to the job of Prime Minister (up from 19% in September). The perception that he is too close to the trade unions has grown however, 26% now think Miliband is too close to the unions, compared to 19% in September. Asked if Miliband is strong or weak, 14% think he is strong, 44% weak, 28% neither.

Of course, one expects negative ratings from opponents – with questions like this it is often more what a leader’s own supporters think that counts. Even amongst Labour voters, however, Miliband’s figures are mediocre – 43% of Labour supporters think he has provided an effective opposition, 46% that he’s been clear what he stands for, 48% that he would be up to the job of PM, 34% that he is a strong leader.

In questions about whether alternate leaders would be better or worse than Miliband, Ed Balls was seen as likely to make a worse leader, Yvette Cooper and Jim Murphy were seen as worse (but both had high don’t knows), David Miliband was seen as someone who would be a better leader by 41% of people (and 41% of Labour voters), compared to 10% who think he’d be worse. Whether Labour really could oust a leader and replace him with his brother without it looking irredeemably odd is an interesting question, although when YouGov asked directly about whether it was right for Ed Miliband to challenge his brother in the first place 58% thought there was nothing wrong with it.

Finally on Ed, YouGov asked if Ed Miliband was ever likely to be Prime Minister. Only 17% of people think it is likely, 69% unlikely. Amongst Labour party voters 52% think it is unlikely Miliband will ever be Prime Minister. The kindest thing one can say about Miliband’s ratings is that they are moving in the right direction and he does at least have time on his side… but not an infinite amount of it.


When I wrote about public perceptions on the issue of Europe a month ago I warned about the danger to the Conservative party of once again looking like a divided party. Following the revolt, YouGov asked whether people saw the Conservative and Labour parties as united or divided, repeating a question that YouGov had asked semi-regularly since 2003. Below are the results for the Tory party over time:

64% of people now see the Conservative party as divided, compared to just 18% who see them as united. This is the most divided the Conservative party has been seen since YouGov started asking the question, down from a peak in 2008 when 56% saw the party as united (though given we have only been asking the question since 2003, they may very well have been seen more negatively during the infighting over Maastricht in the 1990s).

Of course, we can’t conclude this is necessarily down to the European rebellion, or even the issue of Europe – the Conservative party have been arguing with themselves over plenty of things. It does, however, suggest a growing perception of them as being divided, especially when compared to the perceptions of unity they recorded under David Cameron in opposition.

While we are here, here are the same figures for Labour. As you can see, while the Conservative ratings are negative, Labour’s in government were even worse – at their lowest point in 2008 only 3% of people thought that Labour was united, compared to 88% who thought it was divided (though of course, this was after 11 years in power). While perceptions of whether Labour are united or divided have improved since going into opposition, they are still negative – only 25% of people see Labour as united, compared to 45% who see the party as divided.