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		<title>By: Martin Clarke</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/959/comment-page-2#comment-103111</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 17:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strangely enough this was in todays Sunday Herald

&quot;The Herald poll apparently showing Labour back in the lead surprised everyone, psephologists included, who had expected a continuation of the SNP winning streak. The polling organisation MRUK wasn&#039;t one of the usual suspects, and the SNP insisted that there was something decidedly murky about their sampling technique. They had put the questions during March 23-25 but had then sat on them for a fortnight.&quot;

perhaps they have their own doubts about the veracity of the information contained in the poll?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely enough this was in todays Sunday Herald</p>
<p>&#8220;The Herald poll apparently showing Labour back in the lead surprised everyone, psephologists included, who had expected a continuation of the SNP winning streak. The polling organisation MRUK wasn&#8217;t one of the usual suspects, and the SNP insisted that there was something decidedly murky about their sampling technique. They had put the questions during March 23-25 but had then sat on them for a fortnight.&#8221;</p>
<p>perhaps they have their own doubts about the veracity of the information contained in the poll?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Senior</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/959/comment-page-2#comment-102795</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Senior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 22:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to counterbalance it there is a new poll by Progressive for the Scootish Mail on Sunday which is at the other extreme of the spectrum . To be honest I am discounting all the Scottisl polls except by Yougov and ICM .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to counterbalance it there is a new poll by Progressive for the Scootish Mail on Sunday which is at the other extreme of the spectrum . To be honest I am discounting all the Scottisl polls except by Yougov and ICM .</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cairns</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/959/comment-page-2#comment-102789</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cairns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 22:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony,

The SNP have been publicly dismissive of the MRUK poll, but the issues that seems to have made them privately relaxed ( certainly from the campaign people I know), are the ones regulars her will be fmiliar with.

1,000 isn&#039;t a large sample, we don&#039;t know the methodology, phone polls can be effected by te circle of silence ( it gives the Tories a low score), It&#039;s a first poll so we can&#039;t assess it for trend, it runs counter to almost everyone elses, they aren&#039;t recalling nor do they seem to be filtering for previous voting to create a balance.

As ever of course it could be that all the other polls are wrong, but no one I know in the SNP believes that.

Please post what you find about the methodology I know i&#039;ll be interested ( as will a few prominant people I know).

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,</p>
<p>The SNP have been publicly dismissive of the MRUK poll, but the issues that seems to have made them privately relaxed ( certainly from the campaign people I know), are the ones regulars her will be fmiliar with.</p>
<p>1,000 isn&#8217;t a large sample, we don&#8217;t know the methodology, phone polls can be effected by te circle of silence ( it gives the Tories a low score), It&#8217;s a first poll so we can&#8217;t assess it for trend, it runs counter to almost everyone elses, they aren&#8217;t recalling nor do they seem to be filtering for previous voting to create a balance.</p>
<p>As ever of course it could be that all the other polls are wrong, but no one I know in the SNP believes that.</p>
<p>Please post what you find about the methodology I know i&#8217;ll be interested ( as will a few prominant people I know).</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Wells</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/959/comment-page-2#comment-102777</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin - I&#039;ve emailed MRUK to see if I can get any further details of how the poll was conducted. I&#039;ll put a post up when I find something out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin &#8211; I&#8217;ve emailed MRUK to see if I can get any further details of how the poll was conducted. I&#8217;ll put a post up when I find something out.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Clarke</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/959/comment-page-2#comment-102676</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the expert thoughts on the poll published in the Herald which had a dont know figure of 50%. Personally I would have thrown it in the bin but they decided to publish. 

Poll was carried out by MRUK but detailed figures etc were not published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the expert thoughts on the poll published in the Herald which had a dont know figure of 50%. Personally I would have thrown it in the bin but they decided to publish. </p>
<p>Poll was carried out by MRUK but detailed figures etc were not published.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cairns</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/959/comment-page-2#comment-101532</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Cairns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

The last ten days, worked for John Major against Neil Kinnock, but it never happened with Blair. The question is will the tactics being used by Labour this time work as they did before in 1999 and 2003, I have my doubts.

Personally I don&#039;t think so a combination of anger at Labour, the limits of Parliaments powers, and the referendum effectively parking Independence for three years mean that people won&#039;t be put off.

As to differential voting. If Greens, LibDems. and Tories with higher turnout vote tactically to hurt Labour then ifanything the SNP lead could go up. 

It really is all to play for, but certainly the reaction I am getting out canvasing is that people think itis afeto vote SNP, and that post iraq no one believes a word Blair says. 

As for Labours campaign, whether it be Local Income Tax or a referendum, they seem to think it&#039;s a good idea to attack policies that all the polls show have 60% to 70% public support.

How dumb is that.

Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>The last ten days, worked for John Major against Neil Kinnock, but it never happened with Blair. The question is will the tactics being used by Labour this time work as they did before in 1999 and 2003, I have my doubts.</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t think so a combination of anger at Labour, the limits of Parliaments powers, and the referendum effectively parking Independence for three years mean that people won&#8217;t be put off.</p>
<p>As to differential voting. If Greens, LibDems. and Tories with higher turnout vote tactically to hurt Labour then ifanything the SNP lead could go up. </p>
<p>It really is all to play for, but certainly the reaction I am getting out canvasing is that people think itis afeto vote SNP, and that post iraq no one believes a word Blair says. </p>
<p>As for Labours campaign, whether it be Local Income Tax or a referendum, they seem to think it&#8217;s a good idea to attack policies that all the polls show have 60% to 70% public support.</p>
<p>How dumb is that.</p>
<p>Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: Greenpousse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greenpousse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only that it is difficult to punish Labour by voting LD (have propped them up) or Tory (want to prop them up). Given the Socialist self-destruction, that pretty much leaves a choice between SNP, Greens or loonies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only that it is difficult to punish Labour by voting LD (have propped them up) or Tory (want to prop them up). Given the Socialist self-destruction, that pretty much leaves a choice between SNP, Greens or loonies.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Keene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Keene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the face of it the results of the Edinburgh &#039;Evening News&quot; poll together with most of the others appear to signal disaster for the three Unionist parties.But before SNP stalwarts break open the champagne a word of warning. A lot of voters across the political spectrum want to punish Labour and as the biggest opposition party in Holyrood the SNP is the most obvious vehicle by which to drive their message home. I suspect however that a significant number of these unsettled voters will,in the last 10 days of the campaign think twice about voting SNP. Differential turnout is also a factor to consider. Is it not the case that Lib Dem, Tory and yes Green supporters are usually much more likely to turn out than those of the others? I predict that each of these three parties will do better than the polls are suggesting which means that others will do less well. It is still all to play for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the face of it the results of the Edinburgh &#8216;Evening News&#8221; poll together with most of the others appear to signal disaster for the three Unionist parties.But before SNP stalwarts break open the champagne a word of warning. A lot of voters across the political spectrum want to punish Labour and as the biggest opposition party in Holyrood the SNP is the most obvious vehicle by which to drive their message home. I suspect however that a significant number of these unsettled voters will,in the last 10 days of the campaign think twice about voting SNP. Differential turnout is also a factor to consider. Is it not the case that Lib Dem, Tory and yes Green supporters are usually much more likely to turn out than those of the others? I predict that each of these three parties will do better than the polls are suggesting which means that others will do less well. It is still all to play for!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cairns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Cairns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

I hadn&#039;t looked at the details only the story, and you are right the 90% is way out of line.

 I don&#039;t know how it was conducted, so it could well be it was an on line poll without any filtering effectively with a self selecting panel.

However, that would explain the high SNP vote if it ment that the SNP was far more organised than everyone else, and it also shows a higher vote for the greens and the SSP.

 I think a more probably outcome might be that it reflects people who are both politically active and have internet access.

I so a comment on a similiar effect with regards to blogging and on line oppinion in both Venezuela and Iran, where the media in the US and Europe were taken aback by election results.

One reason given was that they paid more attention to what they were seeing on the net than on the ground, and that had ment that they underestimated the impact that the unwired poor would have on the result.

So it may still have a limited validity in showing us how active and motivated the parties are in Edinburgh and indeed how likely they are to get their vote out.

If anyone knows how the 2,000 were selected I&#039;d love to know.

Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t looked at the details only the story, and you are right the 90% is way out of line.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t know how it was conducted, so it could well be it was an on line poll without any filtering effectively with a self selecting panel.</p>
<p>However, that would explain the high SNP vote if it ment that the SNP was far more organised than everyone else, and it also shows a higher vote for the greens and the SSP.</p>
<p> I think a more probably outcome might be that it reflects people who are both politically active and have internet access.</p>
<p>I so a comment on a similiar effect with regards to blogging and on line oppinion in both Venezuela and Iran, where the media in the US and Europe were taken aback by election results.</p>
<p>One reason given was that they paid more attention to what they were seeing on the net than on the ground, and that had ment that they underestimated the impact that the unwired poor would have on the result.</p>
<p>So it may still have a limited validity in showing us how active and motivated the parties are in Edinburgh and indeed how likely they are to get their vote out.</p>
<p>If anyone knows how the 2,000 were selected I&#8217;d love to know.</p>
<p>Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cairns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Cairns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These figures from the latest SNP commissioned YouGov poll are on the SNP website, dated Monday 2nd April.

YouGov poll for the SNP, fieldwork 27-30 March, sample 1,064

The constituency vote (excl don’t know, won’t vote)
SNP 36%, Lab 27%, Lib 16%,  Con 13%, Oth 8%.

Regional list vote (excl don’t know, won’t vote)
SNP 33%, Lab 26%, Con 14%, Lib 14%,Gre 7%, SSP 3%, Sol 1%,  Oth 3%,

Based on WS this would give,
SNP 48, Lab 38, LibDem 19, Tory 15, SSP1, Green 8, Ind 0, Others 0.

Again the *% others in the consyituency vote includes some green and SSP votes that will go elsewhere so that isn&#039;t that will effect the result, and the list independants will probably see at least one elected as might one of the minor parties.

I think the similar figures are on Peter Kellners column.

http://www.yougov.com/interactive/kellnerMain.asp?jID=3&amp;aId=4723&amp;sID=6&amp;wID=0&amp;UID=

Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These figures from the latest SNP commissioned YouGov poll are on the SNP website, dated Monday 2nd April.</p>
<p>YouGov poll for the SNP, fieldwork 27-30 March, sample 1,064</p>
<p>The constituency vote (excl don’t know, won’t vote)<br />
SNP 36%, Lab 27%, Lib 16%,  Con 13%, Oth 8%.</p>
<p>Regional list vote (excl don’t know, won’t vote)<br />
SNP 33%, Lab 26%, Con 14%, Lib 14%,Gre 7%, SSP 3%, Sol 1%,  Oth 3%,</p>
<p>Based on WS this would give,<br />
SNP 48, Lab 38, LibDem 19, Tory 15, SSP1, Green 8, Ind 0, Others 0.</p>
<p>Again the *% others in the consyituency vote includes some green and SSP votes that will go elsewhere so that isn&#8217;t that will effect the result, and the list independants will probably see at least one elected as might one of the minor parties.</p>
<p>I think the similar figures are on Peter Kellners column.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yougov.com/interactive/kellnerMain.asp?jID=3&amp;aId=4723&amp;sID=6&amp;wID=0&amp;UID=" rel="nofollow">http://www.yougov.com/interactive/kellnerMain.asp?jID=3&amp;aId=4723&amp;sID=6&amp;wID=0&amp;UID=</a></p>
<p>Peter.</p>
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