Back now, and ready to go through the rest of the Sunday polls apart from the voting intentions and pick out some of the more interesting findings:

  • YouGov’s poll for the Sun on Sunday asked about tactical voting (it didn’t actually use the term, as I think many people use it to refer to different things. It asked if people were voting for their first choice, or a different party that would beat a party they disliked from winning). 77% of people said they were voting for their first choice, 11% tactically. A word of warning about interpreting this – 8% of Tory voters said they were voting tactically, 11% of Labour voters, 12% of Lib Dem voters, 11% of UKIP voters… but we don’t know if that means 8% of Tory voters are voting Tory for tactical reasons, or that 8% of would-be Tory voters are actually going to vote for someone else for tactical reasons (or a mixture).
  • The YouGov Sunday Times poll had a number of questions on British Muslims and on terrorism. People were split over how well integrated British Muslims are into British society and the extent to which they share British values. 46% of people think the majority or almost all British Muslims share British values, 46% of people think that only a minority or hardly any British Muslims share British values. 42% of people think that most or the majority of British Muslims are well integrated, 50% think a minority or hardly any are. UKIP voter’s attitudes towards British Muslims are far more negative than supporters of other parties – 73% of UKIP supporters say most Muslims don’t share British values, 79% say most British Muslims aren’t well integrated. Nigel Farage’s comments about areas of Britain being like ghettos with sharia law were rejected by most respondents – 33% though they were broadly true, 41% thought they were false. 75% of UKIP’s own supporters believed them.
  • There was a particularly interesting immigration question in the Sun on Sunday poll, essentially asking people to choose between a multicultural approach and an integrationist approach. Slightly to my surprise a multicultural approach was the more popular – 36% thought it better that immigrants leave their own cultures and traditions behind and integrate fully into British culture, 48% thought it better than immigrants retain and celebrate some of their own cultures and traditions.
  • Going back to the terrorism and surveillance questions in the Sunday Times poll, just over half of respondents (52%) thought that the security services do need more access to the public’s communications in order to fight terrorism, 31% thought they already have all the access they need. A similar proportion (53%) would support requiring internet and phone companies to retain users data for 12 months and provide it to the security services on request, though by 51% to 35% people think accessing someone’s personal communications should require the consent of the Home Secretary. While people think accessing personal communications data should require the consent of the Home Secretary, when asked whether they trust the authorities to use the information they obtain responsibly they actually trust Ministers & the Home Office less than the police and the intelligence services. 50% trust the police to use the information responsibly, 63% the intelligence services, 45% the Home Office, Ministers and civil servants.
  • In the ComRes poll they asked (via my old favourite the agree/disagree statement, grr!) whether people agreed with the statement that “Ed Miliband is using the issue of the NHS for his political advantage, not because he cares about it”. 49% of people agree, 26% disagree. That looks bad, but I have my doubts about questions about politicians’ motives. I suspect they largely just reflect a general cynicism towards the motives of all politicians, rather than opinions about particular politicians or decisions. YouGov asked a very similar question in their Sun on Sunday poll, but asked it about Ed Miliband AND David Cameron, and got answers that were almost the same. 46% thought Ed Miliband was using the NHS for political gain, 19% doing what he thought was best for it, 20% both equally. 48% thought David Cameron was using the NHS for political gain, 15% doing what he thought best for it, 19% both equally. As you’d expect, in both cases supports of the Conservative and Labour party both thought their own leader was doing what was best, but the opposing leader was just using it for political reasons.
  • The debate over the debates rolls on, and so do poll questions about it. Opinium asked about whether particular leaders should be invited – 61% think the leader of UKIP should, 46% the leader of the Greens, 30% the leader of the SNP, 23% the leader of Plaid Cymru. The current proposals for debates between Con, Lab, Lib Dem and UKIP leaders was supported by 37% of people, opposed by 31%. YouGov in the Sun on Sunday asked people to pick from some possible combinations. The most popular individual option was the widest, the Lib, Lab, Con, UKIP, Green and the SNP and Plaid. This was picked by 35% though, so while it was the most popular single option, 49% favoured a narrower option – 20% favoured the proposed Con, Lab, LD & UKIP, 17% Con, Lab, LD, UKIP and the Greens (but not the two nationalists). 12% supported an even narrower option, excluding UKIP. In their Sunday Times poll YouGov found people still think David Cameron should take part even without Natalie Bennett – if she is excluded 31% think Cameron should refuse to take part, 52% think he should take part anyway. However, asking about the other side of the deadlock, if Cameron refuses to take part without Bennett 52% think the broadcasters should call his bluff and invite her, 28% think the debates should go ahead without him, 8% think the debates should be cancelled.

193 Responses to “Gleanings from the Sunday polls”

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  1. Daily Record poll

    SNP 46%-2 LAB 26%+2 CON 14%-2 LD 7%+2 UKIP 4% (nc) AP 3%

    SNP down 2 Labour up 2.

  2. @Alec
    But a loan to buy a home is eventually paid off in most cases. If it is not, then people are indeed made homeless, or at least have to make other arrangements.

    I was intrigued to see recently that the last vestiges of the debt from the South Sea bubble were paid off!

  3. @Alec,

    I paraphrase, but it’s pretty much the Labour Party’s official attack line against George Osborne.

  4. Daily Record poll
    SNP 46%-2 LAB 26%+2 CON 14%-2 LD 7%+2 UKIP 4% (nc) AP 3%

    Scotland Votes…






    Had a nice drive back up from Somerset tonight. Just like a summers days minus the temperature.

    Anyway back to this poll. SNP still command a healthy lead and looks as if all this oil stuff Labour are waffling on about has made little or no impact.

  5. @AC – trend confirmation, but much better numbers for SNP than Panelbase.

    Are we still bashing bishops in the mendips?

  6. @Pete B – thanks – you’ve just made my point for me.

  7. ALEC
    @AC – trend confirmation, but much better numbers for SNP than Panelbase.
    Are we still bashing bishops in the mendips

    What trend would that be Alec? Labour losing between 20 and 35 seats?

    Sorry long drive for a tight bishop. :-)

  8. Economics is a grossly overrated science and as a holder of an Economics degree, I should know! In affluent countries like ours, the dismal science, with its even more dismal scientists, has been allowed to subsume our politics. Politicians have become slaves to economic models and queue up to genuflect to so-called wealth creators, bankers, hedge fund managers and business consultants.

    It is only in this dystopian world that people can seriously argue that young people are disengaged with politics because politicians don’t explain clearly enough what a budget deficit is. The truth, in my view, is the entire opposite of that. Apathy and disengagement springs from politicians appearing like pseudo-accountants and speak-your-weight automatons, reciting Bank of England Monetary Committee minutes on the joys of Quantitative Easing.

    Politics is so much more than that but, in the eyes of many, it is cringe-making, passionless and tedious. Don’t take my word for it; go and talk to the voters.


    “So, Mr Nameless, and all the other young political activists, of whatever political hue, good luck in your attempts to galvanise and engage the young in democratic politics. There are an awful lot of old cynics of my generation who believe politics is just a means of assuaging their well polished and comfortable grievances and would be very happy if the generation who can really shape and change our future stay away from the ballot booths; this May and probably forever”

    Not an activist myself but as young voter I would agree with this.

    Far too many in the older generation look down on younger people as irrelevant in politics and would love to silence their opinions.

  10. @PeteB

    “It is true that many members of the population are innumerate. The situation is not helped by certain older media presenters who seem almost proud of their lack of mathematical, technical or scientific knowledge.”

    Actually, proud of their lack of mathematical, technical, scientific, cultural, geographical, historical, philosophical, literary, or dramatic knowledge.

    The term “ignorance is bliss” used to refer to a desirable lack of knowledge of impending bad news. Now it’s applied generally.

    Disgusted, Sussex Coast

  11. Scottish parliament poll

    SNP 50.0%
    Labour 25.7%
    Conservatives 12.2%
    Liberal Democrats 5.8%

    SNP 38.6%
    Labour 22.9%
    Conservatives 13.6%
    Greens 10.4%
    Liberal Democrats 7.1%
    UKIP 6.0%

    olyrood Seats based on the Holyrood poll:
    SNP – 71 (+2)
    LAB – 25 (-12)
    CON – 13 (-2)
    GRN – 11 (+9)
    UKIP – 5 (+5)
    LIB – 4 (-1)
    IND – 0 (-1)

    SNP losing on the list but up over all.

  12. @ Crossbat11 (at 8.09 pm)

    ‘I’m sure I was first to coin the term “gerontocracy”’


    Origin of GERONTOCRACY
    French gérontocratie, from géronto- geront- + -cratie -cracy
    First Known Use: 1830


    So, that makes you at least a hundred years older than I thought you were! Sorry. Couldn’t resist…

  13. One aspect of the Oil price drop that hasn’t been commented on so far that I can see is that while people are attacking the SNP because oil is $70+ dollars a barrel below there long term predicted price of $110, no one is commenting on the fact that it is $60 a barrel below the OBR prediction of $99 dollars.

    It’s even more than $20 below there lowest range figure of $77 a barrel.
    So no one saw this coming and still no one is expecting it to persist, although it could.

    It’s also worth reminding people that if there had been a Yes vote in September Scotland wouldn’t actually have been Independent for another fifteen months, May 2016.

    I am not saying the current price isn’t a series problem and a real concern just that it seems not to be having the impact on Westminster voting some suspected and Labour in particular hoped.


  14. Crickey just noticed. The Scottish Lib/Dems would be in 6th place behind UKIP in terms of votes and seats.

    SNP plus Greens would equal 82 seats = 64% pro independence parties in the parliament.

  15. Further to my previous cheerful post, I think Richard Thompson got it right in 1974 (the year, incidentally, most like 2015 electorally).

    The End of the Rainbow:

    “I feel for you, you little horror
    Safe at your mother’s breast
    No lucky break for you around the corner
    ‘Cause your father is a bully
    And he thinks that you’re a pest
    And your sister she’s no better than a whore.

    Life seems so rosy in the cradle,
    But I’ll be a friend I’ll tell you what’s in store
    There’s nothing at the end of the rainbow.
    There’s nothing to grow up for anymore

    Tycoons and barrow boys will rob you
    And throw you on the side
    And all because they love themselves sincere
    And the man holds a bread knife
    Up to you throat is four feet wide
    And he’s anxious just to show you what it’s for.

    Your mother works so hard to make you happy
    But take a look outside the nursery door
    There’s nothing at the end of the rainbow.
    There’s nothing to grow up for anymore

    And all the sad and empty faces
    That pass you on the street
    All running in their sleep, all in a dream
    Every loving handshake
    Is just another man to beat
    How your heart aches just to cut him to the core

    Life seems so rosy in the cradle,
    But I’ll be a friend I’ll tell you what’s in store
    There’s nothing at the end of the rainbow.
    There’s nothing to grow up for anymore”

  16. @Unicorn / Number Cruncher

    (Apologies if I’m thinking of someone else)

    Looking at the Scottish regional breakdown: (Table 4, page 7)

    I’m seeing a fairly broad dispersal of SNP and Labour VI there (i.e. little in the way of massive amounts of voter concentration). Does this suggest that at a Scottish level, the UNS calcs might be halfway believable?

    I say that I’m seeing a broad dispersal, but I’ve no point of comparison at the regional level. It just looks more spread out than I would have expected, if I was hoping for voter concentration (e.g. Lib Dems in Highland & Islands seems very concentrated).

  17. Looks like there’s more pain to come for the Scottish LDs.

    A goodly chunk of their MPs they are predicted to lose UK-wide will be Scottish. Perhaps there is negative correlation between latitude and LD popularity?

  18. Alec, re Mr Duckham.

    The logical response to this scenario is to turn the car around so that you can look downhill through the rear-view window and use the accelerator to slow the pace of descent.

    Economists can be clever at describing problems and creating complex models, but not very imaginative when looking for solutions….

  19. @Allan

    “SNP plus Greens would equal 82 seats = 64% pro independence parties in the parliament.”

    I spotted the rise in Greens seats. More renewables, less Trident?

    @Peter Cairns

    “while people are attacking the SNP because oil is $70+ dollars a barrel below there long term predicted price of $110, no one is commenting on the fact that it is $60 a barrel below the OBR prediction of $99 dollars.”

    People (I could say which, but I leave it for you to guess) are attacking the SNP because the Conservative’s VI has all but bottomed out and there’s little to gain in that direction without losing votes to the left. I expect a massive campaign North of the border as these seats will make or break the 2015 government (in my humble opinion).

  20. @MOG
    How depressing. Stop and smell the roses.

    Even though the country’s going to rack and ruin, we are still far better off than previous generations and most of the rest of the world.

    “When upon life’s billows you are tempest tossed,
    When you are discouraged, thinking all is lost,
    Count your many blessings, name them one by one,
    And it will surprise you what the Lord hath done.”

    Just to get this back on track re polling etc, the above would even apply if the Greens won the election!

    SNP plus Greens would equal 82 seats = 64% pro independence parties in the parliament

    “I spotted the rise in Greens seats. More renewables, less Trident?”

    I think the Windmills have it ;-)

    BTW STV caught this footage of Jim Murphy and Kezia Dugdale celebrating the Panelbase poll. Seems so long ago. ;-)

  22. Does anyone have any thoughts about how Scotland might influence the outcome of the election? I’d love to hear them.

  23. @ Pete B

    Personally I smell, and have all my life smelled, nothing but roses. I’m from the lucky baby boomer generation; born into austerity, grew with the nations wealth, never wanted, great education, always employed, looking imminently to old age with a couple of brace of pensions coming through.

    We were the luckiest in history. And still are.

    I took out my first mortgage at age 22; my stepson has taken his out at 33; my stepdaughter isn’t even bothering to try.

    It’s no me I worry about, it’s my grandchildren, hence my “end of the rainbow” quote.

    I’m not afraid of the odd Islamist bomb in Britain. It used to be the odd Irish bomb. A minority sport indulged in by small minorities to small effect.

    I worry about the shrinking of the welfare state; I worry about persecution of “the other”; I worry about the spread of Pegida. If Germany can forget the 30s, so can we.

    I’ve been so lucky and so happy in my life. i fear for future generations.

    And I hope the Greens DO win the election (though, sadly, they won’t).

  24. @David Colby

    If the SNP get 30+ seats they might be the 3rd largest party in the UK, and depending on the arithmetic, might be the only option to form a coalition (formal or loose) government.

    It’s a fairly rare thing for Scotland to directly influence a Westminster government in this way. Look at 2010. England voted 39.6% for Conservative and 28.1% Labour, while Scotland voted 42% Labour and 16.7% Conservative.

    It’s only when the numbers are close that Scotland’s seats might make a difference, but the truth is that any region of the UK, such as the North of England, or London will make the same difference.

    For some reason, in these scenarios Labour-heavy Scotland tends to get singled out, rather than Labour-heavy regions of England (that’s not a complaint, rather an observation – perhaps the South East gets singled out, rather than the East of England).

    This time, there’s a fair chance of Scotland not being Labour-heavy, which changes all manner of things, but again it’s down to England, which with 533 seats has the power to choose the party in 2015.

  25. @MOG

    If you’re quoting Richard Thompson then we’re in for a depressing ride (on the wall of death)

  26. Peter,

    Frankly the overall impact on the National accounts (UK) of the OBR oil price input being way wrong may be interesting but not that meaniingful in an Economy the size of tthe UK.
    What is certainly true is that even if we get deflation (which has to bad long-term) most people will fell and actually be better off.

    Household fuel bill will be down (I just has my annual adjustment and it is over £50 amonth lower for G&E), filling up a car is cheaper and prirces of good willl be affected by lower distribution costs.

    Plus March (and in some areas) February sees the Council Tax payment holiday and the tax threshold increases will occur in April.

    So the personal Economic back-drop to the GE in a narrow 6 months leading up to the GE perspective couldn’t have worked out much bettter for the Coalition.

    It would be surprising if they did not benefit in VI terms but how much is of course uncertain as ‘credit’ for the improvement in typical household finances may not go to the Government.

  27. The Sheep/MOG.

    Politicians willl be asking voters to.

    ‘Put your trust in me’

  28. @adge3 & @crossbat

    Once you get to the forecasting bit economics is indeed basically about who shouts the loudest.

    What is truly depressing is the general lack of grasp of basic public finance. This is not surprising as it is not taught in state schools (at least wasn’t when I was at school in the 80s/90s) and graffs are the work of the devil.

    Take a peak at the comments under any given Guardian article. People genuinely believe that: we spend almost nothing on the NHS; that deficits don’t matter because we can print as much money as we like; the majority of government spending goes on immigrants; all economics is a neoliberal conspiracy to keep the plebs poor; if we just printed more money we’d all be fabulously wealthy; etc

    I’m sure it’s the same on the right wing mirrors too.

    Politics is basically a reflection of society; no wonder it’s so ugly.

  29. ALEC

    I’m glad that view is based on “your money”-and not mine :-)

  30. JJIM JAM

    Yes , I agree that the manifestos are important , but only with two other factors:-

    Forensic analysis and grilling by competent journalists.

    Voters who will take the time to read/watch those analyses & interviews.

  31. @ NICK NAME

    I wish you were wrong but unfortunately you’re not.

  32. @JimJam

    O the politicians they look so smug
    You say tell the truth and they give you a shrug
    You might find the truth swept under the rug
    It’s time to ring some changes

    (or not, depending on the outcome of the election…)

  33. @ STATGEEK

    Thanks for clearing that up. LOL

  34. Nick Name

    Been a fascinating trip that folk on the Right have taken on the issue of economics these past few years.

    Back in 2009-10 it was all “The Economists are saying there’ll be catastrophe if we don’t pay down The Debt! Reinhart & Rogoff! Ardagna & Allesina! Listen to them! The Economists have spoken!”

    When it all turned out to be mistakes in Excel spreadsheets, and the folk on the other side had predicted it right all along, the attitude changed to “Economists? Pah! Don’t listen to em!”

  35. I’m all for the “politics is so much more than that” view.

    They all have “visions” for our future; and politics as favourite movie is a beguiling idea, requiring , as it does, an appeal to the emotions rather than the intellect.

    Its a good thing-but without a trusty interviewer to keep asking -“Yes but what does that mean in practice”- its just waffle.

  36. David Colby
    I guarantee they will never get the joke

  37. Allan Christie
    Not an activist myself but as young voter I would agree with this.

    For some reason I’ve always assumed you were an older man so I think I owe you an apology!

  38. I do agree about the public perception of economics & Govt spending though. I’ll see if I can dig out the poll figures on what people think we spend on Overseas Aid. It was out by more than 10 fold as I recall.

  39. @Lefty
    The thing about overseas aid is not so much the amount, but that we spend it all on the Indian space programme

  40. @Allan Christie

    “Far too many in the older generation look down on younger people as irrelevant in politics and would love to silence their opinions.”

    If I was someone in the 18-24 year old age bracket, and I looked at the House of Commons, let alone the House of Lords, who would I see that might inspire me to take an interest in politics? Show business for ugly people is a little trite and unkind, but what personalities are there in our mainstream politics who look as if they belong on the same planet as me if I was that 18-24 year old? They wouldn’t necessarily have to be the same age as me, although if one or two more were it might help, they’d just have to speak in a language that connected with me and they wouldn’t all look like rather creepy elderly and distant relatives I’d avoid at annual family get-togethers.

    If we don’t look at this issue, and confront it, then politics will continue to be all about high interest pensioners bonds, savings policies and inheritance tax, discussed in the main by bland and tedious politicians who look as if they are about to become beneficiaries of their own pet policies!

    There was a real clue in the recent Scottish Independence Referendum campaign which produced an extraordinarily high turnout that, I have to say, caught me by surprise. I’m not a Scot, and don’t live in Scotland, but the interest in engagement was palpable. Why might this have been, I wonder? I know there were important economic issues at stake, not least the North Sea oil question, and I’m not saying that economic arguments never belong in politics, they clearly do, but it was the debate about nationhood and identity that lit the flame of passion and interest. I’ve never been an advocate of the “end of history” argument; there really are big political issues at play in the UK about the sort of country, society, and democracy, we want to be, and please don’t let it become merely a discussion about budget deficits and obscure financial instruments. If it does, as I fear it will, the electorate will continue to file out of the theatre. I’ve always thought politicians get the electorates they deserve, not the other way around. Just a thought, maybe we should do away with Parliament and just elect the Bank of England Monetary Committee every five years!

    It’s time for big ideas and big arguments; not for grey politicians arguing about who’s turn it is to dance on the head of a pin.

  41. Allan

    Great post at 12.10 am. I actually took it at face value!

    It seems that the celebrations at Labour HQ at only loosing 20 or so seats to the SNP under Panelbase have been muted by possible loss of 40 or under Survation!

    Those finding refuge in a “trend” should note that the Survation survey is three days later than Panelbase. In other words the “trend” might be a doubling of the SNP lead in three days!

    Alternatively we might just sensibly conclude that the SNP have a double digit lead, are set to cause a revolution in Westminster Parliamentary politicsand that, under the new dynamic leadership of Jim Murphy, Labour is set to achieve the impossible – less seats than Ian Gray managed in the Scottish Parliament!

  42. Roger Scully on Ashcroft’s Health poll –

    “I think this complete ignoring of devolution – in probably the highest-profile devolved policy area for both Scotland and Wales – was both unpardonably sloppy, and a great missed opportunity. It is amazing to me that even sophisticated political operators like Lord Ashcroft seem sometimes to ‘forget’ that devolution exists.”


    “There is no acknowledgement that the relevant government for managing the NHS differs across Britain, nor that the reforms that have been introduced in England might not be relevant to survey respondents in Scotland and Wales.”

    YouGov (as well as other pollsters) might consider that their questioning is also frequently “unpardonably sloppy”!

  43. Who are these “younger voters” who are so disengaged , and looked down on by “older voters”.

    Lets have a look at the age demographic of the 2010 GE voters :-
    12% were under 24-and 36% over 65.

    Were the 52% in between not “younger”?

    “Younger voters” , by any reasonable definition make up at least a half of all voters.

    And turnout by age group?:-

    18-24 44%
    25 – 34 55%
    35-44 66%
    45 -54 69%
    55-64 73%
    65+ 76%

    ( every group except 65+increased turnout in 2010-in inverse proportion to their elderliness. The retired voted in less numbers)

    So-people in retirement , and towards the end of their working lives vote more than younger people-This isn’t surprising is it ?

    The youngest voters vote the least of all:- Why is this surprising?-they live their lives at breakneck speed, inhabiting a cyberworld so remote from today’s politicians, I’m surprised that more than 40% of them voted.

    And when one of the senior representatives of the Westminster Crew tells them that they are being “disenfranchised” by a “democratic scandal” , because they have to fill out their own voter registration forms-is it any wonder so many of them just go “uh ?”

  44. Sky on the “data mining” that allows parties to treat voters as consumers rather than decision-makers –

    Sky Data, as we call it, enables us to mimic what the political parties are doing.

    It shows us, for example, that on average UKIP voters are most similar to Labour voters in terms of consumer behaviour and affluence.

    UKIP supporters are much more likely than average to have pay as you go mobile phones, shop at Aldi, live in a smaller-than-average house and drive a small utility car.

    However, if you shop at Waitrose, drive an executive car, own a house worth more than half a million, and have a good credit score – you’re more likely to be in the sights of two parties – The Conservatives and Lib Dems. Perhaps THAT explains the coalition.

    Among Conservative to UKIP switchers, the largest single issue for well over half, is immigration.

    Europe is the priority for fewer than one in five.

    SNP voter priorities – so crucial to Labour’s chances – are poverty and devolution, very different to rest of the UK.

  45. LEFTY

    Whilst an overestimate of our Overseas Spending may well be in the public perception, I’m not sure how relevant it is.

    Having all agreed ( I think) , that political discourse at GEs is uninformative for voters , do they not fall back on a whole battery of inputs to their personal opinion forming.

    One of these, I suggest , is the old adage “Charity begins at Home”-particular when/if we are being told that “there is no more money”.

    If politicians want to overcome perceptions like this , it is no good complaining that “they don’t understand the numbers”-they have to make the positive case over & over again.

  46. CB,

    I tend to agree which is why imo the implied manifesto is more important than the actual one.

  47. Odd that still haven’t updated their home page, which at the time of writing still features the December poll for the Record, despite their having tweeted the January poll on Sunday evening.

    The tables are at but there’s no commentary I can find yet on their site.

    Nothing on Prof. C’s yet either, although I suspect he’ll be writing an addendum to his Reason for Labour to Smile A Little? on the Panelbase poll any moment now.

  48. @David Colby

    I didn’t recognise your name, so guessed you were a newish member. I’ve been under the weather for a week now with tonsillitis, and a common cold to boot, so probably took the post at face value, rather than from a sarcastic perspective.

    It’s considered good form to pop smileys into your posts when you’re joking, for those of us that are slow off the mark. If nothing else, it reduces the risk of new folk being greeted with derision if they ask ‘obvious’ things.


    “I guarantee they will never get the joke”

    Is that the helpful, or the unwell to which you refer councillor?

    If by ‘they’ you refer to some other collective, please don’t refer to it when referring to me.

  49. Jim Jam, CB,

    I really dislike that website “Vote for Policies” for a number of reasons. It’s based on 2010 manifestos, it’s easily cheated by anyone sad enough to have read the manifestos or who knows the buzzwords the parties used, and it doesn’t take into account the emphasis each party would put on each issue (anyone voting UKIP for their education policy or Green for their policies on crime and policing? I doubt many).

    But most importantly, it isn’t policies that should be the only factor in deciding a vote. That is surely the attitude of a robot who fundamentally misunderstands human nature. The choice of local candidate, the possibility of victory, and the ideology behind a party are surely other vital factors in motivating people to vote a certain way.

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