There were two immediate post-debate polls tonight, YouGov for the Sun and ICM for the Guardian (I think Opinium may be doing one too, but not being published until tomorrow). Both called it as a convincing win for Nigel Farage. YouGov had 68% saying Farage performed better, 27% Clegg, 5% don’t know; ICM had 69% saying Farage performed better, 31% saying Clegg.


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  1. @Wolf

    There has long been a view amongst part of the Left that university is a middle-class luxury and that therefore it shouldn’t be subsidised.

    The Left has daft fallacies about HE just as much as the Right does, it’s just that it’s the latter’s daft fallacies that are currently in play.

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  2. I think it might have been Hazel Blears in the early Blair era who once claimed to be disgusted that a binman had to pay for his middle-class neighbours to send their child off to become a doctor.

    John Harris’ reply (I think this was in “So Who Do We Vote For Now?”) was something like “I’m sure he won’t mind too much when he has a heart attack and there’s a doctor there to save him”.

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  3. That Dr. got a grant funded by Binmans’ Dad, Doctors daughter was getting ~£20k from the taxpayer to study art history.

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  4. The Kinnock speech re: ‘a platform to stand upon’ specifically mentions university education and that education is a big part of the platform of opportunity Labour should build. That is why IMO tuition fees are a betrayal of Labour values and by argument accept that only the children of the middle class should go to university. I was the first in my family to go to University and my brother received a first class honours and I a Masters degree on the same day – grandchildren of Navvies and jute mill workers – that is what Kinnock was talking about and what the UK (not Scotland) is denying to the young now – the opportunity to become middle class.,.rant rant.

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  5. Here’s a poll for AW to consider (from a Tweet):

    “Edinburgh mtg last night. 57 responses. At start Yes 51% Undecided 45.5% def No 3.5%. At end Yes 74% Undecided 26% def No 0%”

    That’s Independence in the bag then. :))

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  6. I know everyone is banging on about the Euro elections but what about next month’s local govt elections.
    Are those results likely to give us an indication of how parties will perform at the GE next year?

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  7. Valerie – “Are those results likely to give us an indication of how parties will perform at the GE next year?”

    Short answer: No.

    Long answer: The Conservatives won the 2000 local elections by 8 points, and won the 2004 local elections by 9 points…. so no.

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