213 Responses to “New YouGov and Opinium polls”

1. Craig

   @The Other Howard
   [1] You think the possibility of being rich is possible for all in capitalism?
   [2] You think people are perfectly able – and should have to – go globetrotting in search of work? No financial, or immigration setbacks or other responsibilities (I suppose the children can do without schooling?) to take account of?
   [3]I suppose then, as you clearly believe in the free movement of capital, you believe that countries should adopt open borders?

   Frankly I find it difficult how you can reconcile the belief you can moralise to families you show, at best, complete indifference to.

   August 11th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
2. paulcroft

   OH:

   Yes, O’ve often felt the problem with people with poor opportunities from birth is that they had so much tax to pay on their inheritance and then didn’t “invest wisely”. Silly sods.

   “I’m alright Jack- and you would be too if you were as clever and capable as me” has a lovely ring to it.

   August 11th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
3. Craig

   @Other Howard
   Well I work on a shop floor at the moment, and can tell you the bosses do not work anywhere near as hard. But being working class and and managers were never mutually exclusive in the first place.

   August 11th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
4. Anthony Wells

   Craig/Paulcroft/OtherHoward/etc –

   Wind it up now please, this isn’t a venue for political debate.

   August 11th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
5. The Other Howard

   @PaulCroft @Craig

   Sounds as though both realise you have just lost the argument. Never mind there are plenty on this blog who will agree with your views.

   I do not want to upset you anymore so I will leave it for this evening.

   August 11th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
6. Craig

   @OH
   I’m sure it sounded like that to you.

   @AW
   Fair enough.

   August 11th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
7. Jack

   Just a question; did anyone think there would be an ‘Olympics bounce’ for the government at any time? The polls say no…

   So perhaps they should stay out of making sport compulsory for 24 hours a day at schools (and, as such, relegating academic work to unimportant…)

   Sport should be done at town / district level and school sport be solely a bonus, mainly for talent spotting later developers…

   August 11th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
8. SoCalLiberal

   @ Tinged Fringe

   “AP reports that Romney has chosen Paul Ryan as his VP running mate, although the official announcement will happen tomorrow.”

   You know, sometimes you just get lucky and catch a break from your political opponents. He might as well have picked Sarah Palin for Round 2.

   In any case, even worse than this pick is the timing of the announcement. They do a Friday night news leak followed by a 9 am eastern time Saturday morning announcement. Even McCain’s campaign could figure out the timing.

   August 11th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
9. Colin

   Go Mo.

   :-)

   August 11th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
10. SoCalLiberal

    @ Billy Bob

    “Obama seems to have pulled ahead of Romney in the last month.

    Paul Ryan has even more ambitious plans to cut federal spending up to 2050 (“all else” excluding health/social security would be squeezed into a budget significantly less than current defence spending), though one wonders whether being VP candidate is really a stepping stone for someone hoping to become the future of the GOP.”

    There’s more. He plans to end Medicare and they’re also planning to end the home mortgage interest deduction (though they’re too cowardly to admit this but instead refuse to answer the question of whether they’ll keep it). This guy is a firm believer in Ayn Rand.

    But here’s the real problem. The Ryan Budget was unpopular (it cost the GOP a House seat) but it wasn’t all that well known. Most people don’t get into politics and couldn’t tell you what’s in or not in a House budget. Most people don’t sit around watching C-Span all day long. But do you know who does? Senior citizens. That’s why the budget plan was so unpopular. Republican policies only succeed politically when the public isn’t largely aware of them. So the Ryan budget could have hurt Romney at the margins in this election but thus far, Romney has been giving himself plausible deniability on what the House GOP does. He could distance himself, say he was different, and benefit from the fact that most people aren’t aware.

    Now he’s doubled down on this. And now EVERYONE is going to become aware of what’s in the Ryan budget and they’re not going to like it. Old crotchedy white people are the most reliable Republican voters. Romney has just put them into play.

    Now as for Obama moving ahead. He has. I think Harry Reid’s attacks on the taxes are hurting Romney. I think the race has finally gotten nationalized with people tuning in and not liking Romney. Also, I think his foreign trip hurt him thanks to your loveable Prime Minister and incorrigible Mayor of London publicly calling him out (and Romney’s idiocy making it into the mainstream and out of the realm of political junkie).

    I will point out though that traditionally, August has been a bad month for Obama politically. Never really works out for him.

    August 11th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
11. paulcroft

    AW:

    OkeyDokey. I’d clearly acknowledged I’d “lost the argument” anyway so was about to give up. Nothing one can do about superior logic!

    August 11th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
12. crossbat11

    Good evening one and all. I’ve been away for a couple of weeks and was wondering if I’d missed anything interesting.

    Has Danny Boyle received his knighthood yet, by the way or will he have to wait until young Mr Miliband gets the keys to Downing Street in May 2015?

    August 11th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
13. SoCalLiberal

    @ Tinged Fringe

    “Abolition of Medicaid and replacing it with private insurance with a federal subsidy[1].

    Simplified tax rates of 10% on anything below $50,000 and 25% above that.
    Abolishing corporation tax and replacing it with a 8.5% business VAT. [2]”

    It’s not a good idea. And what’s going to happen now is that it’s going to be that much more difficult for Romney to run away from that plan. It’s one thing if the House GOP puts this out there because then he can deny that he supports it. He can also claim he supports something else. And as long as it’s the House GOP’s plan, not that many people will notice. But by picking Ryan as VP, he’s basically made it his own.

    August 11th, 2012 at 11:01 pm