Full tables for the YouGov/Sunday Times poll are now up here, covering u-turns, strikes and more on the jubilee.

On the regular leader ratings David Cameron’s net rating is at minus 26 (no change from last week), Ed Miliband’s at minus 28 (from minus 23 last week), Nick Clegg at minus 55 (no change), so Ed Miliband has dropped back behind Cameron. Other ratings though are more negative for Cameron. 59% think he doesn’t have a grip on the government, 68% think he is out of touch and people think he is weak rather than strong by 50% to 33% (compared to 45% weak and 39% strong a week ago). Less negatively, 42% of people do at least still see him as likable (interestingly enough this was something that we also saw with Tony Blair – long after his other ratings were negative, people still thought he was likeable).

Asked about the recent U-turns 50% think this is a sign of weakness or incompetence, while 33% see it as a sign the government is willing to listen. This is a significant shift from when YouGov asked a similar question a year ago and people were pretty evenly split between the two answers, suggesting that whereas people were once willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt when it came to u-turns, it is now starting to be seen as a negative sign.

There is majority opposition to both the proposed teachers strike and the industrial action by doctors. 55% are opposed to the teachers strike and 62% are opposed to the doctors action, which is only supported by 28%. 59% of people already see doctors as being very well paid and 33% think their pensions are already too high.

Unlike most of the other professions YouGov ask about, there is not even majority support for doctors having the legal right to strike. 48% think they should not be allowed to strike, compared to 44% who think they should. To put this in context, a majority of people think nurses, teachers, railway workers and fuel tanker drivers should have the right to strike, with majorities thinking that police officers and firefighters should not.

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  1. Leadership ratings have changed a tad:

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    Oh, and first! :)

  2. @ Valerie, Paul Bristol

    Yes we atheist- “Republicans” pray for rain for Jubilees, usually in one of those endearing Methodist/Evangelical sheds with a corrugated-iron roof & asbestos walls. No incense for us. We are incensed enough!
    God usually obliges; tho overdoing it on this occasion.

  3. ED and Ed Miliband and Balls are stll not breaking through.

    That is why I think the GE looks like being very tight, at best, for Labour.

    Could TB be found a safe seat somewhere? (for Labour).

  4. Not surprised Ed Milibands rating has dropped back since its Parliamentary recess again and anything he does is not covered by tv media.

    I would expect his ratings to go back up again when Parliament resumes and the vote on referring Hunt to Sir Alex Allen which Labour is tabling.

    If some senior LibDems are whispering behind Cleggs back, Labour could well win this vote unless it’s given a 3-line whip for fear of losing.

    The question then would be whether any of them are prepared to defy the whips in order to attempt to abide by Parliamentary rules…..

  5. “ED and Ed Miliband and Balls are stll not breaking through”
    Same old Central Office notion that has been kicking around for a while now. Odd logic that regular VI in the 40s is somehow a ‘failiure’. However, I think blues have actually done well to keep their ratings only a few points below their GE score, but Lab have the bonus of gaining most from LD meltdown, and there is no sign of them recovering.

  6. OZWALD.
    Do you remember how well Neil Kinnock was doing in 1989-1990?

    ED and Ed are on about the same level, I think.

    He has been reacting well, but no clear policy philosophy, as my Head of Department was saying to me on Friday, making the A Level syllabus hard to teach, when we come to teaching Political Parties.

  7. @Chrislane1945 – “That is why I think the GE looks like being very tight, at best, for Labour.”

    Odd sentiments, to be honest. From reading this kind of this, one could be forgiven that the Tories won the last election with a healthy majority, and Labour have a big mountain to climb to get anywhere near power.

    I’ve never suggested that Labour will easily win power with a majority next time around – I suspect that might be quite difficult for any party.

    But denying the Tories power in 2015 does look pretty straightforward. If Cameron couldn’t win a majority in 2010, he would have had to have played a blinder to persuade more people to vote for him next time round. It’s extremely difficult for anyone to make a coherent case from here that this scenario looks remotely likely, with the time honoured finding that governments always lose support being the most salient point when assessing 2015.

    There is no sign of an internal Labour meltdown as in 1983, so I simply don’t get this idea that somehow, Labour is struggling.

    The Lib Dems are highly unlikely to poll at 8% in 2015, Tories are highly likely to lose seats, and Labour is highly likely to be the largest party.

  8. @Chrislane1945 – “He has been reacting well, but no clear policy philosophy…”

    If you could spell out Cameron’s policy philosophy (and Clegg’s, for that matter) I think we would all be highly grateful.

  9. Alec: Very good posts.

    Re street parties I’ve found it much easier not to bother, stick a bit of bunting up indoors and watch telly all day. You don’t even need to share the jelly and trifle [unless you’re daft enough to invite someone in] which is an added bonus.

    Britain is Great.

  10. @CL1945
    I think we are looking at the same scenario from slightly different angles. I don’t rate Either of the Eds very highly, but then again I was not keen on GB, and when Blair became leader I dropped out of the party. I don’t do hero worship in any case and I believe that the overall VI for the party counts for more than personal ratings at GE time. No doubt others have a different view.

  11. Alec – I agree with your points. I find it particulary difficult to imagine Labour winning big next time. Best case scenario is a small majority but the more likely scenario as things stand now is Labour largest party with Tories hurt by their vote being to0 concentrated in the South of England. This is why Labour need to move on from 2010 and recent years and start to build bridges with the Lib Dems. This is hard to do with Lib Dems in Government but it is possible with big figures outside the Ministerial ranks. I’ve said before I think Hilary Benn should be working with Lord Oakeshott on a big social housing plan that both Laobur and Lib Dems can have in their manifestos.

    This is not a great poll for EdM. I’m starting to doubt the country will ever warm to him!

  12. @ Chrislane1945

    I agree, it’s why i am still convident of a Tory victory in 2012, with about 20 seats majority.

  13. I suppose R Huckle’s post is fine as it is a partisan jibe not directed at the Tories.

    I must say that if people want to bully me off the site then I must say, if I wasn’t so stubborn they’d have succeeded by now.

  14. Oh dear,

    My Dyslexia is to the fore today, sorry about the spelling in my last post, but I am certainly confident!!!

  15. “Could TB be found a safe seat somewhere? (for Labour).”

    Love the qualification :-)

  16. BIG D

    It was not partisan. It was humerous. They all have a bit of a dig at Lembit, even die hard Lib Dems.

    I have had many posts deleted because of apparent partisanship, as AW sometimes does not like humerous jibes aimed at current senior politicians. Presumably on the basis that it starts off a partisan argument.

  17. R Huckle,

    ‘Humerous jibes’

    No wonder you got the elbow (or cold shoulder) from AW……

    (I’ll get my coat..)

  18. RHuckle – I don’t have a problem with it. I am getting fed up with a number of posters claiming that everything I post is partisan when it isn’t (I’ve pointed ot a long list of non-partisan posts in the past to make this point but far from closing this line of personal criticism of me off, it was ignored). I do have problem with people on this sight jumping down someone’s throat if their post can be in any twisted to be an anti-Tory partisan jibe. I’m pretty fed up with a regular poster throwing “the most tiedous poster” at me today. Maybe I should just ignore it but this level of abuse has been consistent from a number of posters for a long time now.

  19. I wonder what the poll figures would be for anyone having the right to strike?

    Would people in London been happy to see private sector bus drivers strike, pilots for British Airways or refinery workers that make petrol for BP.

    My own feeling is that people’s responses are not so much about the principle as to how much impact it would have on them?


  20. As mentioned by me on a previous threads & now confirmed:

    The Bank of England may sanction a further round of quantitative easing if service sector figures slide further this week.

    So the 50% ownership of UK debt by the state could soon be a reality. My guess is: There’s all Party agreement on this; & on what will happen hereafter. Otherwise, the risk – both economic & political – could be high.

  21. Good Afternoon.
    I did my bit for the Revolution by being silent during the latin hymn for Her Majesty.

    WOODSMAN. Thanks!

    ALEC. IMO Labour always had to give posiitve reasons for England to vote Labour. Maudling was right about England, I think.

  22. @ ChrisLane

    I did my bit for the Revolution by being silent during the latin hymn for Her Majesty.
    Nice 1 :-)

  23. “@Hooded Man

    (I’ll get my coat..) ”

    Why, is it raining where you are ?

    @ BIGD

    There are a few on this site who post partisan comments to incite responses from some people who cannot resist. Where it gets out of hand, is where it becomes personal.

  24. The Other Howard

    Why do you think that the Tories will win with a 20 seat majority? What is the timeline on improvements that will lead to that.

    Assuming that the boundaries stay the same (and who knows what will happen as this Government doesn’t seem to have a clue what it is doing) I have the following numbers to give a Tory party 20 seat majority.

    Tories 43%
    Labour 35%
    LD 15%

    Can you tell me where the Tories are going to get this from seeing they haven’t had this level of support at a GE for 20 years and the usual pattern is that incumbents drop votes rather than gain them.

    I find these sort of pronouncements a bit strange and there seems to be no data backing them up and the fall-back is on rather selective reading of the past results.

    I do not think the current VI polls will be the same in 2015 either and I agree totally with Alec’s assessment of the situation.

    [Snip – AW]

  25. @BAZSC

    You need to cheer up. Put the tele on and enjoy a right Royal Occasion! Quite marvellous.

  26. Other Howard

    I am quite happy thank you, and that happiness has nothing to do with the sentimentalist hogwash on the television today

    If you can only gain happiness by the obsequious genuflecting to a rich 86 year old woman then good luck to you

    I think I will go and see my 97 year old nan who still lives on her own and remembers what the opinion of the Royal Family actually was in the pre-war years. She makes me seem like an ardent monarchist!

  27. Going by polling, if a GE were held today there would not be a doubt regarding who would win; the only thing to be settled would be the size of the Labour majority.

  28. @bazsc

    You have just confirmed a view I formed recently and expressed yesterday. Generally people on the left seem to be miserable whereas those on the right are more cheerful even in the face of adversity. I would love to see some polling on this.

    Thankfully as I posted earlier the general public are strongly Royalist and share my enthusiasm.

  29. Amber,

    If a general election was held today there would be a terrible turnout due to the Jubilee, the police would be stretched to the limit and the churches would protest about Sunday voting!


  30. @ The Other Howard

    Generally people on the left seem to be miserable whereas those on the right are more cheerful even in the face of adversity.
    I’m pleased to hear that. It’s a comfort to think that the right will all be whistling a happy tune when Labour win the next GE. ;-)

  31. Can anyone tell me why the Tories would receive a boost in VI because of the Jubilee/ Olympics? Is there any evidence of this?

    Do some people really feel that they have to return to ‘nurse’ because thinking of voting Labour is somehow unpatriotic.

    Is this just Tory spin thinking themselves as the natural default Government for this country perhaps?

  32. Other Howard:

    Dunno what you’re on about mate: why does someone not supporting something you support make them “miserable” or “sad”. This is bizarre logic, similar to your confident prediction [actually just a vague hope] that the tories – part of a very unpopular govt and with its own right wing completely at odds with their own leader – will somehow do BETTER at the next GE than the last one. As a previous poster said, to jutify your prediction at least refer to the polls and explain how it is likely to happen.

    Anyway the happiest people in the worls are miserable sods like myself – its what being British is all about.

  33. @ Peter

    LOL :-)

    Labour landslide because all the righties are Jubilee-ing? Naw, they’d have voted by post already. :-(

  34. The Other Howard

    I am not at all miserable thank you very much. I just do not see the point in glorifying the monarch.

    Just the same as some people do not light their kicks from sport, books, music, films etc.

    Perhaps what you are seeing is that those on the right are either not touched by adversity, don’t care about others or are just too thick to understand!

    The public are strongly Royalist at the moment – in other times they have not been and will not be again in the future. I wish they weren’t so keen but it is only at these times that it annoys.

    I am quite happy today as I have watched motoGP, am currently listening to some music and have a drink in my hand. Bliss. I think I will have a nice read later.

    See not miserable at all!

  35. hooded man:

    your humerus quip was probably lost but at least I nearly chuckled.

  36. @Amber

    I think there is very little chance of that, but I managed to keep cheerful in the past despite Labour Governments.

    Both PaulCroft and Bazsc just seem to confirm my view that the left is generally miserable. As I said it would be interesting to see some polling on this.

  37. Other Howard

    Can you explain to me why I am miserable please as I am feeling quite happy at the moment. Obviously I should be feeling miserable but am unsure as to why – enlighten me please?

    I dislike the monarchy but I also dislike West Brom, Man Utd, the Tories, certain brassicas, the X factor and anything to do with Carol Vorderman. Oh and liver.

    Don’t let them spoil my day though. If you don’t mind me saying you sound a little….well, mad?

  38. I think that you’re really happy you probably don’t mind people pointing out that you are also bonkers – its all grist to the happiness mill.

    Anyway I think if ole other H has never experienced the joy of playing and singing Bach and Dowland and Jackson Browne and so on to his own classical guitar playing then HE must be sad and miserable.

    Not to mention Arsenal winning the championship in the last minute at Liverpool.

    Joy comes in many forms [oo-er missis] and, strangely, not all of them are linked to the “royal” [whatever that means] family.

  39. Slightly different amusing take on the Leveson enquiry.


  40. Well I am enjoying the trip down the Thames on the Telly.

    Not the actual pagent, but the fact that all the commentators ran out of things to say about an hour ago and have now gone beyond cliche and banality to just randomly stringing words together.

    In an age of 24 hour news and channel flicking we now have a generation of presenters who struggle without an auto cue and a timer.

    They have now descended to discussing toilet breaks and rhyming off addresses along the route. It started as Royal occasion and has deteriorated into Eurovision.

    Like I have said I like the Queen and think she is a first class head of state and
    The people really do seem to be having a great time, but the finest examples of the UK’s media are seriously struggling!


  41. @Paul Croft

    If abuse cheers you then I am happy for you. If I am bonkers then perhaps it would be better if the rest of the World went bonkers. I have had a wonderful life, with a very happy marriage still going strong after 50 years, three super children, a great career and a wonderful retirement, seeing most of the rest of the World and its wildlife. I put it all down to having a huge work ethic, something we could do with more of in this country.

  42. “@paulcroft

    hooded man:

    your humerus quip was probably lost but at least I nearly chuckled. ”

    I spotted the quip, but could not summon up the energy to chortle.

    Just to gauge opinion, how many people would favour the UK becoming a republic, after Her Majesties fantastic reign. Personally, while I have considerable respect for the Queen, I don’t support having a Royal Family member, acting as a head of state. I would prefer the Royal Family to be supported financially on a performance related contract, acting as ambassadors for UK plc, but overseen by an elected CEO/President elected by the British people.

  43. @ The Other Howard

    I put it all down to having a huge work ethic, something we could do with more of in this country.
    Then I am all amazement that your political home is towards the right. Only the left pursues full employment as a policy. Surely the policy that all should have a job meets with your approval?

  44. @Amber Star

    I would be happy to favour full employment provided it is productive! I have no time for non-productive jobs that serve no purpose, something we saw so much of under the last government. The point I was making is that if you work really hard you can make a good life. If there are no jobs then you go where the jobs are. The World does not owe the British a living.

  45. Has any free-market economy ever had full employment?

    The Soviet Union managed it, but the way they did it was by creating work that was entirely fictional. In that situation the state isn’t just paying the wages of the worker, as they pay jobseekers allowance now, but also paying for the infrastructure for the job to exist. It’s more expensive.

  46. R Huckle,

    It wasn’t really an attempt at ‘humer’, it was the politest way I could think of enhancing your spelling…..

  47. ThE Other Howard,

    “I have no time for non-productive jobs that serve no purpose, something we saw so much of under the last government!”

    Pray tell?

    Can we have some examples of these unproductive jobs that were provided?



    @”The World does not owe the British a living.”

    In fairness, I think the left know that-which is why they believe that The British State should supply it.

  49. “@Hooded Man

    R Huckle,

    It wasn’t really an attempt at ‘humer’, it was the politest way I could think of enhancing your spelling…”..

    I can spell, when my brain is functioning. Sunday is its day off !

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