Saturday normally doesn’t see any polls being published, so I missed a new ComRes poll for the Indy last night. Topline figures were CON 39%(+2), LAB 36%(+1), LDEM 15%(nc), Others 10%(-3). Changes are from ComRes’s previous online poll a fortnight ago and the poll was conducted wholly after Ed Miliband’s leader’s speech.

Last week I also missed a YouGov Welsh poll. Voting intention figures there with changes from August’s YouGov/ITV Wales poll are CON 22%(nc), LAB 44%(+5), LDEM 11%(+1), Plaid 19%(-4) for the constituency vote; CON 20%(-1), LAB 41%(+2), LDEM 12%(+3), Plaid 19%(-4) for the regional vote. Voing intention in the referendum on extra powers for the Welsh Assembly stands at YES 49%(+1), NO 30%(-2).

111 Responses to “New ComRes VI and YouGov Welsh polls”

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  1. Amber

    While I agree about evidence being presented etc, we are both well aware that the establishment is remarkably efficient at preventing any such evidence being officially presented.

    Which set of politicians were in charge at the time is usually unimportant. You simply need to look at the story of the Kintyre Chinook crash in 1994. While Clegg has announced yet another enquiry, I would doubt that the MoD version will be opposed by this Government, as it wasn’t opposed by yours, or by the original Tory Government.

  2. @ Billy Bob

    …has a ’secret’ too horrible [personal] to mention, and then runs for the most high profile position possible… it doesn’t seem credible to me.
    David Laws disproves this theory, Billy Bob.

    And what about Bill Clinton? You’d never think that somebody lacking in the minimum of personal self-restraint could become POTUS, would you?

  3. Amber

    Well said. No one should ever underestimate the ambitions of those wanting power to exercise it in all kinds of ways! :-)

  4. Ann (in Wales)
    Thank you
    The others from Labour
    Don’t spread vile innuendo for which you have absolutely no evidence. It is disgusting.

  5. OldNat:

    “That was the great fear of the Brits here (and, I presume, in Wales who saw devolution as a “slippery slope”.)”

    It is a consequence of the way the media and party PR set the topics of the day that the day after the referendum, the slippery slope argument dissapeared.

    Previously it was the end of the world if we voted for devoluton, and when four fifths of us voted for it, half the rest “forgot” they had been against it.

    One would have thought Calman was a further stage on the slide, on a even deeper decent into Hades, from whch there could be no return and the fact that the SNP is now in government is also a significant milestone.

    So why don’t we hear the slippery slope argument any more?

    The first time I heard the slippery slope it came from a nationalist who opposed devolution on the grounds that the good was the enemy of the best.

    I’d like to share with you one day what Donald Dewar didn’t say to him and how he didn’t say it. I need to do that in person.

  6. Zeph – First, try this…

    htt p://

    M4C is quite radical. Direct action, negotiation, building the party, empowerment.

    I’m not exactly sure what the Project Game Plan involves yet, but I think it all goes in the same direction.

  7. John B Dick

    “I’d like to share with you one day what Donald Dewar didn’t say to him and how he didn’t say it. I need to do that in person.”

    I’d take the ferry to Rothesay to hear that story!

    The last time I spoke to Donald was when I was running a seminar on movements for autonomy around Europe at a local Labour Conference. When he talked to the delegates (who had generally thought that devolution/independence demands were uniquely special to Scotland) and found that they generally supported the Home Rule idea, his smile would have lit up Scotland by the equivalent amount of a tidal energy scheme. :-)

  8. @ Barney

    The subject we are discussing isn’t “vile innuendo”. Anthony would snip anything of that nature. The one rumour/ strory that we have discussed in detail has been ‘bubbling under’ in some of the mainstream media for a while now. 8-)

  9. @ Roger Mexico

    I live in a rural SE constituency and have belonged to the LP here since 1980.

    In the 80’s, the membership comprised very left wing middle-class academics and students who had moved into the area, right wing lower middle-class councillors from the indigenous population, elderly folk and some trade unionists. The constituency membership in 1984 when I was an election agent was 700 plus.

    In 2009, the membership was less than 300 and very different in composition. The CLP was run by the remnants of right wing ex-councillors and middle management council officials. Very few members attended meetings let alone been active. Blairism and Iraq had caused most of those who were left wing, or in my view ‘political’, to leave.

    The only reason I didn’t resign was because I felt that the Blairites wanted me to leave, and I didn’t want to just hand the party over to them. However, having been very active, I haven’t really been involved for a long time because I felt so completely alienated by New Labour, and impotent because the leadership had removed so many of the democratic structures within the LP…. the Blairite view was that eventually constituency parties should wither and dissolve, to be replaced with a US style system of primaries.

    For some reason they didn’t think about who would organize elections on the ground… (Those constituencies with strong local parties did OK in 2010 GE – for example, Diane Abbott and Kelvin Hopkins Luton North actually had swings to Labour).

    However, over recent months, there has been a great surge of new, returning and different members. I wish that Neil Kinnock would keep his thoughts to himself but I also believe that there are many ex-LP members who will agree with him that “we’ve got the party back” with Ed Miliband…. and that membership has the skills to re-energise the constituency parties.

    My point is that your lists almost certainly pre-date the ‘surge’ that has happened since May 2010, and probably won’t reflect the strength of the CLP’s in 1997…. and frankly the election results don’t reflect Lab. support in this area because so many supporters always vote tactically for the Lib Dems to keep the Tories out (LOL).

  10. @ Sue,

    That is very good thanks :-)

    I can empathise from a little committee experience in other organisations including trade union. I have noticed how the age profile, inflexibilty and lengthy agendas can put people off and conversely how organising techniques, engagement and empowerment can help.

    I would caution that structure and rules are important as they provide a means for a committee to fairly allocate time for debate and to challenge and ultimately vote down the status quo where necessary. In my experience participants becaome disillusioned if power is too centralised and they do not feel that their views can effect anything.

    So that is a good start. Do you know how one can become involved in M4C now that DM’s campaign is over? Is it a full time committment?

  11. @ All

    Anthony has started a new thread. 8-)

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