As far as I know there are at least two new polls tonight. First up, YouGov’s weekly poll for the Sunday Times has topline figures of CON 41%, LAB 39%, LDEM 13%. There will likely be other questions once the Sunday Times itself goes up online, but I will update those later.

There is also a ComRes poll for the Independent on Sunday. Topline figures are CON 37%, LAB 35%, LDEM 15%. There are no changes, since the poll was conducted online, so by definition will have had completely different sampling from ComRes’s usual telephone polls (as far as I can tell from the tables, the rest of ComRes’s methodology is identical to that used in their telephone polls.) ComRes’s website suggests they will be carrying out concurrent online and telephone polls, rather than switching from telephone to online.

221 Responses to “New ComRes and YouGov polls”

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  1. Just a note for people talking about how much applause Clegg gets, and if he gets a standing ovation… Please remember this is a LibDem conference, made up of activists and councillors and so on. Of course there is going to be applause and a standing ovation. Just as there was for Gordon Brown during the Labour ones, despite being pretty unpopular within his party.

    It’s a shame we can’t really gauge how many people at the conference *aren’t* clapping or standing during the standing ovation. Or how sincere those that do are about it.

  2. I find it quite amusing the amount of Labour-ites who are foaming at the mouth due to Clegg selling out, presenting his party as left-wing, while he’s more right-wing, fooling the electorate with false promises, telling his left-wing where to go and saying anything to get into power. Remind you of anyone? For New Liberal = New Labour.

    For me, the Labour Party took a shift to the right far too long ago (multiple foreign wars, free reign to banks, clamping down on civil liberties, speeches about being swamped with immigrants etc). The LDs then became the party of the Left by default (even though they hadn’t moved much, centre-left is still the left of two right-wing parties), even if they’re not welcome anymore. So where does that leave my vote next election? An authoritarian war-mongering Labour Party that invests in public services, a libertarian Tory Party with a predisposition towards the rich at the expense of the poor or Liberal Party that is more Whig than SDP?

    Doesn’t sound like much of a choice to me.

  3. Jay,

    Sort of following on from your post, I wonder how local campaigning may be affected.

    While MPs, some Councillors and hard-core Activists may cheer NC to the rafters, the people who do the legwork on local campaigns are people I suspect less likely to be happy.

    Part of my first period in the Labour Party was like that, and in tough times, many ‘softer’ members and those who are not members but supporters went AWOL. This severely limited local campaigning and leafleting, and looks bad for the party too.

    I remember campaigning in 1997, and the number of Labour camapigners totally demoralised our opponents and made Labour look bigger somehow.

  4. Sue

    “Colin – Whoopdedoo! That fiver will make all the difference.”

    I think the difference between your combined figures & the correct ones is £27pw-£11,336 pa vs £9932 pa

  5. @Garry

    Not even all their MPs are willing to give full support to the coalition any more. Portsmouth South MP Mike Hancock has written an open letter accusing the government of exceeding the coalition document as agreed to by the party.

  6. My top tip…..

    Mike Hancock will not get a cabinet post soon…

  7. “Clegg has suffered a blow with a clear vote against the Coalition “Free Schools” policy.

    No word yet from party or parliamentary party on a response”

    Featherstone & Teather were on World at One.

    They both supported Gove.

    THey both said it was a good thing that LD rank & file expressed their concerns about possible social divisiveness.

    THey both said this would act as a reminder for the Government to ensure fairness.

    Teather-the Schools Minister-reminded Martha Karney that Gove has recently indicated a willingness to allow engineered entry quotas.She said that this, together with the Pupil Premium ahould address Conference fears.

    It all seems pretty civilised & postive to me.

  8. @Garry

    One of the additional “ironies” assailing the LibDems right now is that by accepting government offices, they lost “Short Money” opposition party funding. And have actually had to make some of their own party staff redundant and consolidate party political offices to save money.

  9. THey both said it was a good thing that LD rank & file expressed their concerns about possible social divisiveness.

    THey both said this would act as a reminder for the Government to ensure fairness

    Is that The Liberal Democrats flexing their muscles?

  10. I was interested to see frm the yougov webpage that even now a signifantly lareg part of LD party members lean more towards Lab than to the Cons.

    Could that change over time? Would an electoral pact with the Cons ‘persuade’ the LDs to change their mind?

    ((Anyone else sick of that distracting Wonga ad here?))

  11. I would suspect any such pact would indeed ‘persuade’ the LD Party. By method of reducing it’s ranks of those who disagree with the Conservatives.

  12. Starchief

    The Greens?

  13. Jay Blanc

  14. I am baffled having looked at the Populus data. I expected to find “mischievous” Labour supporters blaming DC and GO for “Britain’s current financial situation, with a very large budget deficit and debt and the need for significant spending cuts” as the reason for the seemingly incredible overall 49% “level of responsibility”

    I realise that the question was actually based on a 1-10 scale so 49% is dead middle for responsibility, rather than 49% of people thinking they are totally responsible, but that said the the splits surprise me.

    Blues on average said they were 44% responsible, reds 51% responsible and yellows 55%! And the splits for ABs and C1s are bang in line with the overall total, and geographically the South East actually polling higher responsibility than average?!

    I know the question wasn’t great but I am still baffled by the splits – either the fieldwork is suspect, or hopefully the experts here can assure me this is a “voodoo” or substandard poll?

    I didn’t scroll right to the end to see what level of responsibility was attributed to Mickey Mouse….

  15. @ Eoin

    somewhere missing on your 1,2,3 is the media, that has helped drive this shift to right wing economic liberalism

  16. Anyone noticed the Swedish election result – it’s another NOC situation (yet again this year) with an anti-immigrant party holding the balance of power.

  17. GrahamBC,

    Yes it is a rather sad addition that i did indeed omit.


    Maybe if Richard from Norway is on later he will post a bit on it. He had some rather interesting detail on the Swedish Quislings.

  18. Hooded,

    Yes it was one to avoid I think. :)

  19. @ Sue Marsh

    Pret a Manger sounds delicious (now you’re making me hungry). I’m glad they donate food to the homeless. I’m glad if Marksup and Spendsmore does the same. :)-

    @ Old Nat

    Everyone has their moments including Bob Menendez. I don’t think Americans really understand the British political structure and that Scotland has a separate subgovernment. I don’t think Al Megrahi should have been released but I’d be kinda happy if the Libyans were paying loads of money to Tony Blair or any Westminster official in order to secure the release of terrorists held by the Scottish government. They’d be wasting their money.

    @ John B. Dick

    Selling a king? That’s even better!

  20. KeithP, go back a page or so and there’s a bit on the subject there. The centre-right Alliance bloc are trying to win over the Green Party from the centre-left bloc, but initially the Greens have seemed unenthusiastic and told the PM to negotiate with the bloc as a whole rather than try and break it up.

  21. Social Liberal

    “I don’t think Americans really understand the British political structure and that Scotland has a separate subgovernment.”

    I’m sure you are right about that, David Steel has said he met legislators who have never owned a pasport and are proud of the fact.

    To put that in perspective however, Scotland’s only Conservative MP has complained of the effort he has to make to inform colleagues about devolution and was looking forward to Conservative gains to help with what is undoubtedly heavy lifting for more than one person.

    I can see that that would make him a YES-BUT man when it’s a YES man that is usually wanted and that mey be the reason he is less popular in the party than he is in the constituency.

    The LibDems have now sub-contracted the task.

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