Comments on: Angus Reid show 14 point Tory lead

By: Lukw

Lukw — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:48:23 +0000

Surely support for minor parties dependent on them having candidates in every seat which they do not. Especially the BNP, which only have a couple of hundred usually if memory serves.

By: James Burt

James Burt — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:39:51 +0000

I think this is simply part of strategic planning on the part of the Conservatives. Just like the “challenging times” mantra of the party as a whole, this is taking a hit now, not a bigger one later – and 2% or so doesn’t seem too bad for them on that front. In my opinion, it’s harder to measure the damage the issue’s done to Labour, and that’s why it might appear that the Conservative’s are the ones most in the firing line.

By: Jim Jam

Jim Jam — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:49:22 +0000

Where did Craigs post that I was responding to disappear to?
Moderated out?

By: Jim Jam

Jim Jam — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:38:02 +0000

Criag,
No need for me to respond your reasonableness, analysis and balance is there for all to see.
Open thread now, suggest you go there.

By: david p

david p — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:45:56 +0000

I am not surprised Labour’s polling is not lower. Must bear in mind that Labour’s open door immigration policy has imported hundreds of thousands of voters who will look to labour. Add the public sector client base and there is a floor under the Labour vote.

By: James Ludlow

James Ludlow — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:21:25 +0000

@ JIMJAM – my parents are Labour voters. I respect them hugely. I don’t respect their decision to support the current Labour government though. They don’t even respect it themselves – they openly despise and despair about what Labour has become in recent years, but have decided to vote Labour anyway because they want the party to survive and one day find its soul again. I understand their reasoning but I can’t support it myself. The prospect of 5 more years of Brown and co. is unbearable to me.

By: Jim Jam

Jim Jam — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:21:18 +0000

Yes Collin I do think so and will be happy to detail on an open thread.
I respect most Conservative voters despite disagreeing with them it is a shame RC (unlike the vast majority if pro con posters) does not appear to respect labour voters.
I enjoy a bit of knockabout lower down threads whilst we wait for a new poll but some comments are just too much.
PB is a more suitable site for ultra partisan, vitriolic stuff.

By: collin

collin — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:55:43 +0000

JimJam 9.50. Would it be your contention,then, that the country is better on balance(socially and economically)after 12 years of Labour rule, than it was after the previous 12 years of Conservative rule.? A list of the improvements would be an interesting matter for debate.

By: collin

collin — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:49:53 +0000

Colin 8.52.I never use anything else but “COLLIN”, it is locked in.

By: Jim Jam

Jim Jam — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:19:23 +0000

Craig U – Entering the EEC (as was), Single European Act, Maastrict treaty all introduced by the Cons with no referendum.
The SEA in particularly was far more significant than Lisbon and pushed through by Thatcher – do you really think that if the Tories agreed with Lisbon they would hold a referendum.
Get Real it is only positioning.
Within 2 years of a con gov’t no powers of any significance will have been ‘repatriated’ and the Anti EU Brigade (Cash etc who are honest) will be clambouring for referendum on pulling out as DC will not have been able to deliver on his promise.
He will not be able to resist credibly but probably claim some small ‘repatriation’ is enough.
This is the danger for Cameron in the ‘Lisbon’ issue not the treaty itself which is a low resonance issues but the Electorate viewing hom as slippery.
On its’ own it won’t be enough but if a few other things occur Lisbon will have been the start of the gloss coming off Brand Cameron (which let’s face it is what he is – a brand)