Comments on: The BNP and YouGov entryism http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2328 Opinion polling and political analysis Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:49:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Paul H-J http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2328/comment-page-1#comment-590519 Paul H-J Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:07:15 +0000 http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/?p=2328#comment-590519 Beans Surely the easiest way to manipulate yougov would be to identify all 250k current panel members and persuade a large number of them to respond in certain ways, even if that does not represent their true view. Question is, how easy is that compared to generally persuading joe public ? Beans

Surely the easiest way to manipulate yougov would be to identify all 250k current panel members and persuade a large number of them to respond in certain ways, even if that does not represent their true view. Question is, how easy is that compared to generally persuading joe public ?

]]> By: BEANS http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2328/comment-page-1#comment-590514 BEANS Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:37:15 +0000 http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/?p=2328#comment-590514 Anthony, Sorry to correct you. However, even if 2,500 BNP supporters joined, they would still have to meet some criteria. For starters, not all 250,000 take part in a single survey (approx 1,000 do). Likewise, since your location and demographic details are given (presumably in weightings also) - the 2,500 would have to select the right demographics (like, women aged 65+, ethnic minorities, etc). Even if the BNP managed to get 2,500 members joining inputting in false data, they would all have to represent a cross-section of society. The easiest way to manipulate yougov would be to encourage current panel members to give up their position on the panel. Anthony,

Sorry to correct you. However, even if 2,500 BNP supporters joined, they would still have to meet some criteria. For starters, not all 250,000 take part in a single survey (approx 1,000 do). Likewise, since your location and demographic details are given (presumably in weightings also) – the 2,500 would have to select the right demographics (like, women aged 65+, ethnic minorities, etc). Even if the BNP managed to get 2,500 members joining inputting in false data, they would all have to represent a cross-section of society. The easiest way to manipulate yougov would be to encourage current panel members to give up their position on the panel.

]]> By: Anthony Wells http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2328/comment-page-1#comment-590509 Anthony Wells Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:46:48 +0000 http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/?p=2328#comment-590509 Jack - 95% is a very rough figure! I've no idea, I expect it's ones that use a political sample (which really just leads to the question of which ones use a political sample. Matter of Peter's judgement, but generally anything with party political stuff). Jack – 95% is a very rough figure! I’ve no idea, I expect it’s ones that use a political sample (which really just leads to the question of which ones use a political sample. Matter of Peter’s judgement, but generally anything with party political stuff).

]]> By: Jack Cornish http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2328/comment-page-1#comment-590507 Jack Cornish Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:01:36 +0000 http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/?p=2328#comment-590507 I don't know where your getting the "95 % of surveys aren't political". I would say that this figure goes up significantly when we discount polls that don't pay out any credits. But anyway i'm not that bothered, but would have been nice to be told. BTW AW, what are they couting as "political polls", just the ones that ask who you would vote for, or the ones that ask "are you satisfied with how things are going in the world/your country/your neighbourhood type ones? x I don’t know where your getting the “95 % of surveys aren’t political”. I would say that this figure goes up significantly when we discount polls that don’t pay out any credits. But anyway i’m not that bothered, but would have been nice to be told.

BTW AW, what are they couting as “political polls”, just the ones that ask who you would vote for, or the ones that ask “are you satisfied with how things are going in the world/your country/your neighbourhood type ones?

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]]> By: Paul H-J http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2328/comment-page-1#comment-590487 Paul H-J Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:46:51 +0000 http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/?p=2328#comment-590487 Andy, They probably thought they could influence YouGov polls the way they would typical voodoo polls in newspapers etc. As you say, dunces. But then, somewhat representative of the intellectual profile that is attracted to BNP's simplistic message. Andy,

They probably thought they could influence YouGov polls the way they would typical voodoo polls in newspapers etc. As you say, dunces. But then, somewhat representative of the intellectual profile that is attracted to BNP’s simplistic message.

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