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	<title>Comments on: ICM too show 17 point Tory lead</title>
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		<title>By: Seal Pup</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2319/comment-page-1#comment-590222</link>
		<dc:creator>Seal Pup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jack

The weakness of a landslide is the amount of Tories likely to throw votes down the waste trap of UKIP… (and BNP)&quot;

Total partisanship... at least say something about the poll!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jack</p>
<p>The weakness of a landslide is the amount of Tories likely to throw votes down the waste trap of UKIP… (and BNP)&#8221;</p>
<p>Total partisanship&#8230; at least say something about the poll!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul McLennan</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2319/comment-page-1#comment-590203</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul McLennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we have a Breakdown for Scotlanf?</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fitflops, that&#039;s not right. 

The previous ComRes poll found 12% of people saying they voted Lib Dem in 2005. Once you exclude all the don&#039;t knows, didn&#039;t votes and so on, that works out at 21% of those who gave a 2005 recalled vote.

They deliberately don&#039;t match the actual vote shares because of false recall. Panel studies have repeatedly shown that people do not accurately report to pollsters how they actually voted at the previous election, so weighting recalled vote to actual vote would actually give inaccurate results.

Lots more detail &lt;a href=&quot;http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/faq-weighting&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fitflops, that&#8217;s not right. </p>
<p>The previous ComRes poll found 12% of people saying they voted Lib Dem in 2005. Once you exclude all the don&#8217;t knows, didn&#8217;t votes and so on, that works out at 21% of those who gave a 2005 recalled vote.</p>
<p>They deliberately don&#8217;t match the actual vote shares because of false recall. Panel studies have repeatedly shown that people do not accurately report to pollsters how they actually voted at the previous election, so weighting recalled vote to actual vote would actually give inaccurate results.</p>
<p>Lots more detail <a href="http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/faq-weighting" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: fitflops</title>
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		<dc:creator>fitflops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last ComRes poll had 9% of respondents who voted Lib Dem last time, when 20% actually did. All the firms have skewy samples of one kind or another, but ICM tend to be the most accurate for us, and even they have us a coupe of points lower than we ought to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last ComRes poll had 9% of respondents who voted Lib Dem last time, when 20% actually did. All the firms have skewy samples of one kind or another, but ICM tend to be the most accurate for us, and even they have us a coupe of points lower than we ought to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2319/comment-page-1#comment-590170</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have been saying since the Libdem conference started, don&#039;t trust any polls until the end of October.

They are starting to look a little more consistent now, but there is still a fair bit of variation from polls carried out just a couple of days ago, with no obvious cause.  Of course it is possible that YouGov had a rogue, but as YouGov tend to be the most reliable pollster I think it is more likely to be down to poll volatility continuing from the conference season.

On a separate point, it doesn&#039;t do the Conservatives any good to be bashing the BNP.  Doing it under cover of army officers who are well known Conservative supporters is better than politicians openly doing it, but I think it would be far more sensible for us politically (as well as being the right thing to do anyway) to admit that BNP voters have very real and legitimate concerns, and to address them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have been saying since the Libdem conference started, don&#8217;t trust any polls until the end of October.</p>
<p>They are starting to look a little more consistent now, but there is still a fair bit of variation from polls carried out just a couple of days ago, with no obvious cause.  Of course it is possible that YouGov had a rogue, but as YouGov tend to be the most reliable pollster I think it is more likely to be down to poll volatility continuing from the conference season.</p>
<p>On a separate point, it doesn&#8217;t do the Conservatives any good to be bashing the BNP.  Doing it under cover of army officers who are well known Conservative supporters is better than politicians openly doing it, but I think it would be far more sensible for us politically (as well as being the right thing to do anyway) to admit that BNP voters have very real and legitimate concerns, and to address them.</p>
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