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	<title>Comments on: ICM show 19 point Tory lead</title>
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		<title>By: Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

The wiki page for the republican debates is interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)_presidential_debates,_2008#May_3.2C_2007_-_Simi_Valley.2C_California

First it shows that the eventual republican candidate McCain did badly throughout. Maybe they should have listened more to the debates when choosing candidtaes, but of course here the candidates are already picked.

As important, looking through the accounts an apparent bias from Fox appears to be present, so I suspect if we do have a debate, even though they are calling for it, it won&#039;t be on Sky.....

Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>The wiki page for the republican debates is interesting.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)_presidential_debates,_2008#May_3.2C_2007_-_Simi_Valley.2C_California" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)_presidential_debates,_2008#May_3.2C_2007_-_Simi_Valley.2C_California</a></p>
<p>First it shows that the eventual republican candidate McCain did badly throughout. Maybe they should have listened more to the debates when choosing candidtaes, but of course here the candidates are already picked.</p>
<p>As important, looking through the accounts an apparent bias from Fox appears to be present, so I suspect if we do have a debate, even though they are calling for it, it won&#8217;t be on Sky&#8230;..</p>
<p>Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: promsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>promsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they&#039;re gunna do these things, I&#039;d like to see them broken up into:
&quot;Who wants to be PM&quot;; &quot;Strictly PM dancing&quot;; and the &quot;Crapped on Factor&quot;... I don&#039;t want to hear their focus group crafted drivel... make &#039;em perform for me like chimps if that&#039;s where we&#039;re headed, no pretence at debate like they do on QT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they&#8217;re gunna do these things, I&#8217;d like to see them broken up into:<br />
&#8220;Who wants to be PM&#8221;; &#8220;Strictly PM dancing&#8221;; and the &#8220;Crapped on Factor&#8221;&#8230; I don&#8217;t want to hear their focus group crafted drivel&#8230; make &#8216;em perform for me like chimps if that&#8217;s where we&#8217;re headed, no pretence at debate like they do on QT.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, 11. Forgot about Eck himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, 11. Forgot about Eck himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Cairns,

I agree that the US presidential debates were poor, largely due to Obama&#039;s lack of substance, although some in the past have been excellent. On the other hand, the Republican debates were a very lively mix of personalities and different competing ideologies.

Debates are all down to the people involved, which is one of the reasons I&#039;d like to see Big &#039;Eck involved. He after all has the most experience of leadership out of all the leaders with representation in parliament.

Personally, I think big multi-candidate debates work best, as with the Republican and Democratic primary debates. Also, representation in parliament is the fairest sane criterion. That means the following participants: Brown, Cameron, Clegg, Robinson, Jones, Taylor, Empey, Durkan, Galloway and Adams (the last of which I suspect will not be attending). 10 isn&#039;t that many in comparison to American debates and would be an education in Celtic politics for most of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Cairns,</p>
<p>I agree that the US presidential debates were poor, largely due to Obama&#8217;s lack of substance, although some in the past have been excellent. On the other hand, the Republican debates were a very lively mix of personalities and different competing ideologies.</p>
<p>Debates are all down to the people involved, which is one of the reasons I&#8217;d like to see Big &#8216;Eck involved. He after all has the most experience of leadership out of all the leaders with representation in parliament.</p>
<p>Personally, I think big multi-candidate debates work best, as with the Republican and Democratic primary debates. Also, representation in parliament is the fairest sane criterion. That means the following participants: Brown, Cameron, Clegg, Robinson, Jones, Taylor, Empey, Durkan, Galloway and Adams (the last of which I suspect will not be attending). 10 isn&#8217;t that many in comparison to American debates and would be an education in Celtic politics for most of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I wouldn&#039;t get my hopes up about the debates, even if they do happen they might not be a good thing. I&#039;ve watched many of the US debates and they really aren&#039;t up to much. 

The idea that politicans who have spent their careers only giving the answers they want to the questions they are asked, will somehow act differently on a election debate is to say the least niave.

I can understand that people want the debates and are looking forward to them but I can&#039;t see any new blinding insight or revelation. In fact the risk is that we get the opposite, one candidate says the wrong thing or misses an answer and the other wins.

Imagine what would happen if the majority didn&#039;t want Brown but Cameron made a gaff and the media attention let Labour just sneak a win even though Browns not up to the job.

If people want exitement lets just draw cards to see who wins, live during the X factor.

For me the Leader debates are like Video replays for Live Football. the people pushing for it aren&#039;t the fans on the terracings it&#039;s the TV companies who want to make money out of it.

The idea that Sky is pushing this because of Murdochs commitment to democracy is only for the gullible. They want it because it will be prime time viewing.

Now if only they can get an add break between each question......

Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I wouldn&#8217;t get my hopes up about the debates, even if they do happen they might not be a good thing. I&#8217;ve watched many of the US debates and they really aren&#8217;t up to much. </p>
<p>The idea that politicans who have spent their careers only giving the answers they want to the questions they are asked, will somehow act differently on a election debate is to say the least niave.</p>
<p>I can understand that people want the debates and are looking forward to them but I can&#8217;t see any new blinding insight or revelation. In fact the risk is that we get the opposite, one candidate says the wrong thing or misses an answer and the other wins.</p>
<p>Imagine what would happen if the majority didn&#8217;t want Brown but Cameron made a gaff and the media attention let Labour just sneak a win even though Browns not up to the job.</p>
<p>If people want exitement lets just draw cards to see who wins, live during the X factor.</p>
<p>For me the Leader debates are like Video replays for Live Football. the people pushing for it aren&#8217;t the fans on the terracings it&#8217;s the TV companies who want to make money out of it.</p>
<p>The idea that Sky is pushing this because of Murdochs commitment to democracy is only for the gullible. They want it because it will be prime time viewing.</p>
<p>Now if only they can get an add break between each question&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Peter.</p>
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