Comments on: YouGov Daily figures – 37/30/21

By: Anthony Wells

Anthony Wells — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:43:03 +0000

Alec – that’s heading into the sort of discussion that should be on the other thread now it’s open…

By: Alec

Alec — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:04:54 +0000

@Neil A – you’re right, but that therefore begs the question as to why Cameron expressly stated that NI MPs should be able to vote on English matters, while Scots would not? I assume it was part of the deal he struck with the Ulster Unionists. It’s constitutionally illiterate and displays nothing but political opportunism, playing fast and loose with the constitution for party political gain. It’s one of a string of policy statements that turns me off Cameron and where the lack of effective scrutiny of his policies is allowing a badly thought through government programme to come forward by default.

By: Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)

Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP) — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:57:38 +0000

Anthony,

You spoil us Mr Ambassador…..

Peter.

By: David in France

David in France — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:27:34 +0000

@promsan

@Andy Stidwell

I dunno why Labour don’t just come clean and ban every other party, they seem to be starting with the NP, why not stitch up the deal and ban the Tories, and get on with their NeoStalinist fantasy!

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You’ve said that. Well done.

You can feel chuffed with yourself now.

Now can we try and stick to commenting on polls without getting so i. off the point and ii. so over-excited by ourselves?

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:26:26 +0000

Promsan

The Tory-Ulster Unionist pact is in place for the General Election:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7913967.stm
and, as Bill Patrick says, the absence of Sinn Fein from the chamber means Cameron could form a working government while being in a technical minority.

By: promsan

promsan — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:13:17 +0000

I have to say, I’ve only ever contributed to one poll, by Mori once last year, he came round my house… consequently, I felt the irrepressible need to overemphasise my views by way of compensation. He never asked me which party I supported, I think he suspected I would have said Nashnal Frunt, just to get a reaction… inveterate troll that I am.

But yeah, you look at the SKY ones, and they seem to match up… the polling teams seem to yield info a bit like the way newspapers have a political persuasion… I do wonder to what extent they are pandering to their commission whether by accident or on purpose; i.e. a SKY poll will be of SKY subscribers, and thus match a particular demographic trend.

Do any of ‘em do any bigger samples ever? like 10,000? Or does the law of diminishing returns kick in long before you get that large?

Cllr Pete – not a bad idea then… hows about a “House of Lads” and a “House of Lasses”? (with some discretion for Mandy to join the latter)!

By: Andy Stidwill

Andy Stidwill — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:05:33 +0000

Interesting that Brown is advocating an electoral system which often magnifies the unfairness of the electoral system rather than diminishing it.

In 1997 Blair’s majority would have been over 200 rather than 179 using this system. Only 13 Tory MPs were elected with more than 50% of the vote in 1997. Most of the other 152 Tory MPs elected that year would have been defeated under AV.

By: Neil A

Neil A — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:37:38 +0000

@Alec,

You actually made me laugh with your remark about the apparent incongruousness of Cameron accepting Unionist backing in the Commons but not wanting Scots MPs to vote on England-only issues.

Errrr, on what planet would you have to be to think that the Tories will not enjoy a majority of English seats after the next election?? I very much doubt Cameron will be needing Unionist support on English issues, and for UK wide issues there is no conflict with all UK MPs having a vote (which is the point..)

By: Anthony Wells

Anthony Wells — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:26:17 +0000

Peter

Here you go

http://www.yougov.co.uk/extranets/ygarchives/content/pdf/Wednesday_30.pdf

By: Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)

Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP) — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:20:46 +0000

Promsan,

depending what romours you believe we either have two PM right now but ones in the house of Lords ot two PM’s inhabiting the same body……

Peter.