Comments on: ComRes show Tory lead down to a single point

By: Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)

Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP) — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:13:03 +0000

I’ve been polled on the phone before and a week or so later when the poll comes out I’ve found that I’ve bben telling people it was ICM when it was Mori.

It’s a simple mistake to make as unless you are paying attention to who’s asking rather than the questions it’s easy to not care who it is.

So I am prpared to give Valerie the benefit of the doubt and say she just got the name of the pollster wrong.

Peter.

By: thomas

thomas — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:48:55 +0000

Tony Jones,
if that is you then I’m happy to meet someone I’ve shaken hands with in the real world.
As for whether you are famous or infamous, I’ve never been in your front room, so I couldn’t say, but anyone who can get national coverage for their assertion of independence is deserving of wider support, at least in my book – don’t say you’re having second thoughts now!

People will always take freebies, but we would be right to be suspicious of any strings attached and it would depend anyway on whether the assistance is actually helpful.

Our elected authorities have built up a large debt of mistrust, so I doubt the public will be as forgiving of well-intended stupidity as it has been till now and I think there is growing attention on ulterior motives.

By: NigelJ

NigelJ — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:44:49 +0000

john TT: “valerie” told a barefaced lie – so calling him/her an idiot (definition of someone who is without knowledge ) is perhaps less offensive than calling him/her a liar. Either discription could be true. You on the other hand just have a political view that, whilst I disagree with part of it (ie Gordon Brown being a man for a crisis) certainly is not offensive, and is for the most part relevent to the subject of polls. I look forward to continuing a discussion with you on other threads. Best regards Nigel
PS: Even though I am, as you may guess, right of centre, I too find many of M”TH O” Richardson’s posts quite ridiculous. He does, though, try to keep it relevant to the POLLS as he would wierdly say!

By: john t t

john t t — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:51:59 +0000

Nigel – I know you weren’t addressing me, but I must say The Oracle surely takes the biscuit rather than “Valerie”.

Calling people “trolls” and “idiots” only puts you in the same category and renders any opinion you have less valid.

Leaving aside the personal attacks, Valerie’s point that Brown is more suited to this financial crisis is one that I agree with and explains his improved standing. He’s a man for a crisis.

When calm returns, so (I fear) will his popularity ratings to pre-crisis levels.

I’m pretty sure that satisfies Anthony’s comments policy.

If you want to cast me as an idiot or troll, I’m sure that wioll say more about you than me.

By: NigelJ

NigelJ — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:51:53 +0000

Anthony: Any way you can block some of the obvious Trolls? There is always a lot of partisan commment on here, but in the past it was obviously independent thought. I know Mike Smithson has some trouble with those claiming to be “possible floating voters” etc. etc., but i had hoped they wouldn’t start populating this site. The most stupid one to date is the IDIOT VALERIE who said she had received a call from YouGov!!!!!!!!

By: Alasdair Cameron

Alasdair Cameron — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:07:11 +0000

There is not, and never has been a free or unregulated market for most industries. Oil, coal, gas, nuclear, telecomms, space, defence, pharamceauticals, IT – all have been massivley subsidised by the government to achieve political or economic aims, and indeed many began as government programmes. The idea that industry can just be allowed to regulate itself is ludicrous. While we may debate the type or degree or regulation, simply deregulating industry would only put us further into the hole we are already in.

The ‘market’ is very good at optimising an existing situation, ie how to make money with the cards it has. It is not very good at long term innovation, or coping with social or environmental factors. I would have hoped that given the environmental catastrphy we are currently falling into, we could all agree on the need for balance in this area.

By: colin

colin — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:48:13 +0000

“Colin,do you think there should have been no intervention for the banks? ”

I believe the Banks were in critical need of new capital & government was the only source of enough capital quickly enough to save them from collapse.

I believe that it was wrong of the Government to pretend that the recapitalisation would be a source of resumed flow of credit to borrowers. It patently is not.
The Banks & the Government are now engaged in a weird dialogue about being more prudent, but lending more-shoring up their capital base but lowering their margins-buying more government debt but supporting more private & commercial debt-helping people to borrow against falling house prices.

I don’t know what the answer to this is.

By: Tony

Tony — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:00:21 +0000

This wait for the next set of polls is becoming interminable!
Or is this the hand of meddlesome Mandelson at work on the media, just hoping and waiting…. for the next sensationalist headline under which to bury the governments unpopularity… !!?
By the way, that was an attempt at satire, so no-one need take it too seriously!

By: Valerie

Valerie — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:56:08 +0000

Anthony
Tee hee
At least you read my message re the ‘you gov lady’-thanx for that

I think the polls have underestimated Labour’s support.
Over the summer I would have been a bit embarassed to say I was a Gordon Brown supporter, given the meeja onslought against him.
Now, I think his granite like features are more appropriate for this financial crisis.
I’m sorry, but the thought of boy george running the countryy’s finances just beggars belief. I don’t think I’m the only person who thinks that, by a long chalk.

By: Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)

Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP) — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:18:41 +0000

Ivan,

” nature ‘regulates’ itself just fine without the use of any centralised bureaucracy.”

Nature doesn’t have money or trade either, do you think we should get rid of those too”…..

Peter.