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	<title>Comments on: Tory lead steady in latest ComRes poll</title>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the old orthodoxy linking political fortune to the economic climate has reemerged among sections of the commentariat.

Well, doesn&#039;t this depend upon a personal judgement of whether and how much recent changes in poll popularity are due to the failure of the government rather than the success of the opposition?

Considering many conservatives are claiming it is overwhelmingly the failure of the govt which is the cause of their decline it is a bit perverse to suggest economic recovery is a prerequisite for their poll recovery - this would depends upon the effect of direct causation, which no pollster would agree with.

No, Labour can recover quite easily, provided they aren&#039;t put off their stride, by watching the Conservative challenge implode (if this is to happen).

Any rotten apples on Camerons bandwagon will prove doubly noxious and immediately recontaminate their brand, for although the overcoming of previous barriers to inclusivity has enabled them to spread their appeal into a fuller breadth of society (some of which were previously considered untouchable as far as they were concerned, particularly when Thatcherite doctrine indicated the non-recognition, or destruction, of society), they have not completely dispelled the impression their message has any underlying or unifying theme which can be carry across the full depth of society and into every corner with equal relevance.

The &#039;Broken Society&#039; narratives enters dangerous territory for the conservatives, because it strays very close to a &quot;You&#039;re not alright, Jack&quot; form of top-down active interventionism - the intervention of a strict parent over the head of an indulgent nanny.

For supporters of the Conservatives this may seem the correct medicine for these/for all times, but it remains to be seen how the invalid fares, because the prescription provides no guarantee that the diagnosis isn&#039;t just of growing pains through a period of demographic change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the old orthodoxy linking political fortune to the economic climate has reemerged among sections of the commentariat.</p>
<p>Well, doesn&#8217;t this depend upon a personal judgement of whether and how much recent changes in poll popularity are due to the failure of the government rather than the success of the opposition?</p>
<p>Considering many conservatives are claiming it is overwhelmingly the failure of the govt which is the cause of their decline it is a bit perverse to suggest economic recovery is a prerequisite for their poll recovery &#8211; this would depends upon the effect of direct causation, which no pollster would agree with.</p>
<p>No, Labour can recover quite easily, provided they aren&#8217;t put off their stride, by watching the Conservative challenge implode (if this is to happen).</p>
<p>Any rotten apples on Camerons bandwagon will prove doubly noxious and immediately recontaminate their brand, for although the overcoming of previous barriers to inclusivity has enabled them to spread their appeal into a fuller breadth of society (some of which were previously considered untouchable as far as they were concerned, particularly when Thatcherite doctrine indicated the non-recognition, or destruction, of society), they have not completely dispelled the impression their message has any underlying or unifying theme which can be carry across the full depth of society and into every corner with equal relevance.</p>
<p>The &#8216;Broken Society&#8217; narratives enters dangerous territory for the conservatives, because it strays very close to a &#8220;You&#8217;re not alright, Jack&#8221; form of top-down active interventionism &#8211; the intervention of a strict parent over the head of an indulgent nanny.</p>
<p>For supporters of the Conservatives this may seem the correct medicine for these/for all times, but it remains to be seen how the invalid fares, because the prescription provides no guarantee that the diagnosis isn&#8217;t just of growing pains through a period of demographic change.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, not even economic recovery can guarantee a government&#039;s re-election (although it helps).  
The UK had long since come out of recession by the time John Major called the 1997 general election - hence the term &quot;voteless recovery.&quot;  Similarly, the US economy was in relatively good shape in 2000, but was it was not enough to give Al Gore the presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, not even economic recovery can guarantee a government&#8217;s re-election (although it helps).<br />
The UK had long since come out of recession by the time John Major called the 1997 general election &#8211; hence the term &#8220;voteless recovery.&#8221;  Similarly, the US economy was in relatively good shape in 2000, but was it was not enough to give Al Gore the presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Waller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Waller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, you are right that Labour&#039;s 36% was lowered by the fact that the election was not seen as close, and by the low turnout (these are of course closely related) - and also by the defection of many Muslims to the Lib Dems and in a few places Respect because of the Iraq war.
For these reasons I too think they are starting from a higher base. However, they have run into huge problems over the past few months, and there can be no denying how awful the polls are now, and I can see no reason why they will get better for quite a while. The present level is quite clear, and is not affected by where they might have been in 2005.
Thomas, yes, they may recover, but as I have said elsewhere there will need to be an economic turn-round. I don&#039;t think this will be significantly affected by what the Conservatives do or do not do. That&#039;s not what normal mass of the electorate are looking at right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, you are right that Labour&#8217;s 36% was lowered by the fact that the election was not seen as close, and by the low turnout (these are of course closely related) &#8211; and also by the defection of many Muslims to the Lib Dems and in a few places Respect because of the Iraq war.<br />
For these reasons I too think they are starting from a higher base. However, they have run into huge problems over the past few months, and there can be no denying how awful the polls are now, and I can see no reason why they will get better for quite a while. The present level is quite clear, and is not affected by where they might have been in 2005.<br />
Thomas, yes, they may recover, but as I have said elsewhere there will need to be an economic turn-round. I don&#8217;t think this will be significantly affected by what the Conservatives do or do not do. That&#8217;s not what normal mass of the electorate are looking at right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe James Broughton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe James Broughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes....anyone caught with dodgy expenses or slashing tyres should be thrown overboard.
There will be greater scrutiny from now on.

The Government would need more than a good conference to turn this round.
Their best hope is the economy doesn&#039;t perform too badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;.anyone caught with dodgy expenses or slashing tyres should be thrown overboard.<br />
There will be greater scrutiny from now on.</p>
<p>The Government would need more than a good conference to turn this round.<br />
Their best hope is the economy doesn&#8217;t perform too badly.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I can fully believe that Labour are languishing at this moment in time, but I cannot believe that the picture will remain as it is all the way until the election.

We are entering the crucial phase over the next 6 months and the next conference season will do much to set the mood. 

Having taking on the role of front-runner, the tories need to show they are worthy of it and whether they can last the pace they&#039;re setting, because the closer to the election the more incumbents are given the benefit of the doubt - the first step to show that Labour have been a devil has been accomplished (more by events than by the efforts of the opposition, it must be said), now the challenger must overturn the presumption that the devil you know is a better proposition than the one you don&#039;t.

Any slip-ups by Cameron or the party (and they are beginning to happen) will count double against their chances because it would slow any momentum while distracting any real purpose that exists, so internal party discipline ought to be a big issue right now.

I won&#039;t make any predictions about what will happen, because it still depends on how we react when each of the leaders have their mettle tested under fire of battle - which is the biggest unknown unknown.

My biggest piece of advice to Cameron would be to avoid any thoughts that &#039;decontamination&#039; has been achieved for his party and make it an ongoing process to make sure that no new Aitkens or Archers try to hitch along for the ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I can fully believe that Labour are languishing at this moment in time, but I cannot believe that the picture will remain as it is all the way until the election.</p>
<p>We are entering the crucial phase over the next 6 months and the next conference season will do much to set the mood. </p>
<p>Having taking on the role of front-runner, the tories need to show they are worthy of it and whether they can last the pace they&#8217;re setting, because the closer to the election the more incumbents are given the benefit of the doubt &#8211; the first step to show that Labour have been a devil has been accomplished (more by events than by the efforts of the opposition, it must be said), now the challenger must overturn the presumption that the devil you know is a better proposition than the one you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Any slip-ups by Cameron or the party (and they are beginning to happen) will count double against their chances because it would slow any momentum while distracting any real purpose that exists, so internal party discipline ought to be a big issue right now.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t make any predictions about what will happen, because it still depends on how we react when each of the leaders have their mettle tested under fire of battle &#8211; which is the biggest unknown unknown.</p>
<p>My biggest piece of advice to Cameron would be to avoid any thoughts that &#8216;decontamination&#8217; has been achieved for his party and make it an ongoing process to make sure that no new Aitkens or Archers try to hitch along for the ride.</p>
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