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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Scottish</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1245/comment-page-2#comment-475366</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Scottish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZX</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1245/comment-page-2#comment-445482</link>
		<dc:creator>ZX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thomas,

&quot;exactly - that argument is a non-sequitur.&quot;

Indeed, it is a non-sequitur to suggest that a Scottish Prime Minister will deliver more for Scotland, but that was exactly your argument.

That point aside, whether or not England and Scotland both get a raw deal doesn&#039;t mean that Scotland shouldn&#039;t try to get a better deal through independence.  There is no shame in trying to improve your lot, after all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thomas,</p>
<p>&#8220;exactly &#8211; that argument is a non-sequitur.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, it is a non-sequitur to suggest that a Scottish Prime Minister will deliver more for Scotland, but that was exactly your argument.</p>
<p>That point aside, whether or not England and Scotland both get a raw deal doesn&#8217;t mean that Scotland shouldn&#8217;t try to get a better deal through independence.  There is no shame in trying to improve your lot, after all!</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1245/comment-page-2#comment-444722</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zx,
exactly - that argument is a non-sequitur.

Peter,
you are shifting your argument. Firstly you professed to desire impact, after I highlighted how such negativity is meaningless posturing you attempt to appropriate my counterargument.

Do you think Danes pat themselves on the back for exercising a veto? Or do you think they&#039;d prefer to have found a solution which benefits them more?

What you are arguing for is political expediency at the expense of positive solutions - so stop confusing real and relative terms if you don&#039;t want to look like an overly partisan fool.

Personally I don&#039;t think Scotland should get a better deal that states of comparable sizes, only an equal deal. Nor do I think you can show how Scotland wouldn&#039;t have less influence as a result of secession.

Keep conjecturing and you&#039;ll keep exposing your inferiority complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zx,<br />
exactly &#8211; that argument is a non-sequitur.</p>
<p>Peter,<br />
you are shifting your argument. Firstly you professed to desire impact, after I highlighted how such negativity is meaningless posturing you attempt to appropriate my counterargument.</p>
<p>Do you think Danes pat themselves on the back for exercising a veto? Or do you think they&#8217;d prefer to have found a solution which benefits them more?</p>
<p>What you are arguing for is political expediency at the expense of positive solutions &#8211; so stop confusing real and relative terms if you don&#8217;t want to look like an overly partisan fool.</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t think Scotland should get a better deal that states of comparable sizes, only an equal deal. Nor do I think you can show how Scotland wouldn&#8217;t have less influence as a result of secession.</p>
<p>Keep conjecturing and you&#8217;ll keep exposing your inferiority complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1245/comment-page-2#comment-444697</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I am in favour of British withdrawal from the EU. Then we could adopt policies that would hopefully rebuild Scotland&#039;s fishing industry and those in the other parts of the United Kingdom as well as some other industries. Britain hasn&#039;t really gained economically from being a member of the EU. Indeed, to take one example, the last Tory government wasted £67 billion pounds during our ERM membership through direct costs and also the support given in benefits as unemployment went up by about a million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I am in favour of British withdrawal from the EU. Then we could adopt policies that would hopefully rebuild Scotland&#8217;s fishing industry and those in the other parts of the United Kingdom as well as some other industries. Britain hasn&#8217;t really gained economically from being a member of the EU. Indeed, to take one example, the last Tory government wasted £67 billion pounds during our ERM membership through direct costs and also the support given in benefits as unemployment went up by about a million.</p>
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		<title>By: ZX</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1245/comment-page-1#comment-444549</link>
		<dc:creator>ZX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thomas,

&quot; the irony is that this argument currently applies more to the English while under a Scottish mafia of Labour MPs than the reverse&quot;

I beg to differ.  The so-called Scottish Mafia does not sit around the big EU table thinking about how to increase Scottish fishing quotas, or securing EU money for renewables in the Western Isles.  No, the Scottish Mafia is interested primarily in their own re-election, something which sits on the ballots of middle England.  Now, that&#039;s not to say that Brown et al always (or ever) do what&#039;s &lt;i&gt;best&lt;/i&gt; for England, rather it is to say that England is their first thought, and always will be (this is true for any government, as long as England is c.a. 90% of the UK).

A Scottish cabal at the wheel at Westminster doesn&#039;t automatically mean Scotland gets a better shout than England, anymore than an English cabal would mean the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thomas,</p>
<p>&#8221; the irony is that this argument currently applies more to the English while under a Scottish mafia of Labour MPs than the reverse&#8221;</p>
<p>I beg to differ.  The so-called Scottish Mafia does not sit around the big EU table thinking about how to increase Scottish fishing quotas, or securing EU money for renewables in the Western Isles.  No, the Scottish Mafia is interested primarily in their own re-election, something which sits on the ballots of middle England.  Now, that&#8217;s not to say that Brown et al always (or ever) do what&#8217;s <i>best</i> for England, rather it is to say that England is their first thought, and always will be (this is true for any government, as long as England is c.a. 90% of the UK).</p>
<p>A Scottish cabal at the wheel at Westminster doesn&#8217;t automatically mean Scotland gets a better shout than England, anymore than an English cabal would mean the opposite.</p>
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