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	<title>Comments on: Has David Davis changed people&#8217;s minds?</title>
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		<title>By: Johnty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A complete exercise in uselessness. David Davis is so sore he lost to Cameron he&#039;ll try anything to get back at him including wasting a quarter of a million pound on a non event where only 30% of the people bothered to vote. Doesn&#039;t he realise we are at war with terrorists and need every help we can get, including 42 days. As for the streetcams,look at the crime they solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A complete exercise in uselessness. David Davis is so sore he lost to Cameron he&#8217;ll try anything to get back at him including wasting a quarter of a million pound on a non event where only 30% of the people bothered to vote. Doesn&#8217;t he realise we are at war with terrorists and need every help we can get, including 42 days. As for the streetcams,look at the crime they solve.</p>
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		<title>By: Fluffy Thoughts (E.D.P.)</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1244/comment-page-1#comment-439604</link>
		<dc:creator>Fluffy Thoughts (E.D.P.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john tt,

&lt;i&gt;Christian - I wouldn’t worry about going OTT. Just read some of Fluffy’s posts!&lt;/i&gt;.

OTT: is that &lt;b&gt;O&lt;/b&gt;ver-my-&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;hinkable-&lt;b&gt;T&lt;/b&gt;houghts...? :P And here was me thinking that I was a political puppy.

P.S. Camer&#039;s gets a positive response form this week&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Economist&lt;/i&gt;. Independent commentary; don&#039;t you just love it...? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john tt,</p>
<p><i>Christian &#8211; I wouldn’t worry about going OTT. Just read some of Fluffy’s posts!</i>.</p>
<p>OTT: is that <b>O</b>ver-my-<b>T</b>hinkable-<b>T</b>houghts&#8230;? <img src='http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  And here was me thinking that I was a political puppy.</p>
<p>P.S. Camer&#8217;s gets a positive response form this week&#8217;s <i>The Economist</i>. Independent commentary; don&#8217;t you just love it&#8230;? <img src='http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: john t t</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of focus groups is also to pick up on unforeseen objections. 

Surely it would be quite simple for the promulgation of a focus-group driven policy to include a pre-emptive answer to those objections?  Why wait until the objections are raised before answering them?

Do such opposing questions simply get ignored once the decisions are made? 

Christian - I wouldn&#039;t worry about going OTT. Just read some of Fluffy&#039;s posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of focus groups is also to pick up on unforeseen objections. </p>
<p>Surely it would be quite simple for the promulgation of a focus-group driven policy to include a pre-emptive answer to those objections?  Why wait until the objections are raised before answering them?</p>
<p>Do such opposing questions simply get ignored once the decisions are made? </p>
<p>Christian &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t worry about going OTT. Just read some of Fluffy&#8217;s posts!</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1244/comment-page-1#comment-439563</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; By and large proposals are focus group tested and tailored to get a positive message before being released. In follows therefore that after a short while you could expect to see some drop once the alternative view catches up and the original proposal is scrutinised.

Just the sort of comment I’d expect from a Nat . . . 

I would actually go further. Not only are the issues focus group tested, but different focus groups are fed different contexts (e.g. as in the ICM poll, in a terrorism context). The results are not simply used to decide which policy is popular and should be adopted, but to find out how a given policy that has the potential to cause problems to your political opponent must be packaged to maximise the damage. 

As you rightly state, the problems for the proponents start when the alternative view of the same issue gains popularity. But this alternative view must be pushed, and that’s what Davis tried to do. 

And I suppose I was somewhat over the top in my earlier post. If the alternative view had really gained popularity, it should feed through even to questions that set out a different context. (That is, if people start to associate 42 days with civil liberties, then even the answers to straight yes/no questions should shift.) 

Christian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; By and large proposals are focus group tested and tailored to get a positive message before being released. In follows therefore that after a short while you could expect to see some drop once the alternative view catches up and the original proposal is scrutinised.</p>
<p>Just the sort of comment I’d expect from a Nat . . . </p>
<p>I would actually go further. Not only are the issues focus group tested, but different focus groups are fed different contexts (e.g. as in the ICM poll, in a terrorism context). The results are not simply used to decide which policy is popular and should be adopted, but to find out how a given policy that has the potential to cause problems to your political opponent must be packaged to maximise the damage. </p>
<p>As you rightly state, the problems for the proponents start when the alternative view of the same issue gains popularity. But this alternative view must be pushed, and that’s what Davis tried to do. </p>
<p>And I suppose I was somewhat over the top in my earlier post. If the alternative view had really gained popularity, it should feed through even to questions that set out a different context. (That is, if people start to associate 42 days with civil liberties, then even the answers to straight yes/no questions should shift.) </p>
<p>Christian</p>
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		<title>By: Fluffy Thoughts (E.D.P.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fluffy Thoughts (E.D.P.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rupert Read,

Did you wipe the sweat from your brow when you &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; beat us English Democrats in the recount? Until a few months ago very few contributors claimed to know who the E.D.P. were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupert Read,</p>
<p>Did you wipe the sweat from your brow when you <i>just</i> beat us English Democrats in the recount? Until a few months ago very few contributors claimed to know who the E.D.P. were.</p>
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