Comments on: 8% think they can name their MEP

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By: Colin

Colin — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:14:55 +0000

So that’s that then.

Lots of “ideals & compromise” ?
…but don’t touch French farm subsidies

No “bullying” ?
…. but all back in October with a Irish Yes-or else.

plus c’est la même chose!

By: Fluffy Thoughts (E.D.P.)

Fluffy Thoughts (E.D.P.) — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:41:34 +0000

On topic, no I cannot name my MEP, but I know he defected from Labour to the Tories a few years back. As for the general EU debate, well my position is clear, OUT.

Now I try to avoid most North American news as it is so parochial, so on the following point I may be wrong but I’m sure NAFTA does not have a similar bureaucratical jungle as the EU? Why can states not agree treaties amongst themselves, and delegate to the judiciary the implementation and safeguards? After all NAFTA is the model that most Europeans aspire to (free-trade not governance).

World governance has been tried many times – Empire, League of Nations, United Nations, etc – and has failed as people, states and nations are different. I certainly would not look forward to global homogeneity, especially as the proposer does not indicate and democratic participation or framework (which may be the inherent flaw in any such scenario).

By: john t t

john t t — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:47:58 +0000

I think what I’m saying/agreeing Peter is at least “In or Out” would make better telly, and would be better than nothing.

By: john t t

john t t — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:46:23 +0000

The nature of the thing makes for poor telly. Stalemates, compromises, wrangling etc. No chance of a big fisticuffs, or of a great ideological shift.

At least we have clear blue water as a domestic concept, and the possibility of a real change. The EU is boring (but then so it should be!) – I just wish it was boring and Cheap.