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	<title>Comments on: The Lib Dems in a hung Parliament</title>
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		<title>By: John B Dick</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1149/comment-page-1#comment-567512</link>
		<dc:creator>John B Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lab-SLD coalition lost only a hadful of seats after two terms and if that is a &quot;disaster&quot; as Mike Richarson says, then most governments in my lifetime have been a disaster and our democracy badly needs fixing.

The coalition ran its course and it was time for another grouping. If the electoral arithmetic worked out that way, do you think we could have a Lab-Con coalition or would the Westminster politicians rather see an SNP government than that?

Donald Dewar explained to me half a century ago that in his vision for a Home Rule parliament coalition would alternate with minority government, that both had potential for consensus and the implementation of more thoroughly worked out policies with broad support, more effective implementation in practice and a better chance of enduring.

I&#039;m pleased that we have the second option to try out. Ms Goldie, the SNP and the Greens seem to understand how it works, but the LibDems oddly enough given their self image as star coalition players havn&#039;t, and parts of Labour are still too hurt by defeat to act responsibly.

I think I prefer it so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lab-SLD coalition lost only a hadful of seats after two terms and if that is a &#8220;disaster&#8221; as Mike Richarson says, then most governments in my lifetime have been a disaster and our democracy badly needs fixing.</p>
<p>The coalition ran its course and it was time for another grouping. If the electoral arithmetic worked out that way, do you think we could have a Lab-Con coalition or would the Westminster politicians rather see an SNP government than that?</p>
<p>Donald Dewar explained to me half a century ago that in his vision for a Home Rule parliament coalition would alternate with minority government, that both had potential for consensus and the implementation of more thoroughly worked out policies with broad support, more effective implementation in practice and a better chance of enduring.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pleased that we have the second option to try out. Ms Goldie, the SNP and the Greens seem to understand how it works, but the LibDems oddly enough given their self image as star coalition players havn&#8217;t, and parts of Labour are still too hurt by defeat to act responsibly.</p>
<p>I think I prefer it so far.</p>
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		<title>By: promsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>promsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Mentioned by me elsewhere) The Lib Dems seem to have established a post-war pattern of a gentle bulge in support roughly every 10 years:

Yet, they can&#039;t seem to keep their heads above 20% for any length of time... and seem to blow it when they are about to make a breakthrough.

If this pattern continues to 2013, then I see little chance of the LDP doing anything next year other than losing a few seats in the election; and picking them up again mid-term as they reach their habitual periodic apex of support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Mentioned by me elsewhere) The Lib Dems seem to have established a post-war pattern of a gentle bulge in support roughly every 10 years:</p>
<p>Yet, they can&#8217;t seem to keep their heads above 20% for any length of time&#8230; and seem to blow it when they are about to make a breakthrough.</p>
<p>If this pattern continues to 2013, then I see little chance of the LDP doing anything next year other than losing a few seats in the election; and picking them up again mid-term as they reach their habitual periodic apex of support.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Andy Stidwill, Lib Dems have always stuck to their own principles, they arnt going to side with Labour in order to stop total Tory control, nor will they side with the tories in order to make themselves more popular, they will take the route they have always taken and vote on a policies own merits rather than who is supporting it, Lib Dems are not as low as the other parties to do anything otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Andy Stidwill, Lib Dems have always stuck to their own principles, they arnt going to side with Labour in order to stop total Tory control, nor will they side with the tories in order to make themselves more popular, they will take the route they have always taken and vote on a policies own merits rather than who is supporting it, Lib Dems are not as low as the other parties to do anything otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cllr Peter Cairns (SNP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that in the event of a hung parliament a lot of people will, for want of a better term, look at the Scottish model, which is itself I believe the New Zealand model.

Instead of a formal coalition the largest party ( expect a debate over seats or votes if one party doesn&#039;t have both) is backed by one or more of the smaller parties to form a government but after that each bill is judged on it&#039;s merits.

Even if the Libdems/SNP/DUP etc. vote a bill down they can still vote for the government to stay in any vote of confidence.

It means a lot of horse trading but i suspect the parties would prefer it if they thought that being in coalition might mean a loss of identity or be seen as them compromising there principles for power.

Clearly something like closing 2,500 post offices wouldn&#039;t get through and electorally it might let the Libdems avoid any debate/questions on who they favour by declaring &quot; it will be the peoples choice and we will allow the largest party to attempt to form a government.

Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that in the event of a hung parliament a lot of people will, for want of a better term, look at the Scottish model, which is itself I believe the New Zealand model.</p>
<p>Instead of a formal coalition the largest party ( expect a debate over seats or votes if one party doesn&#8217;t have both) is backed by one or more of the smaller parties to form a government but after that each bill is judged on it&#8217;s merits.</p>
<p>Even if the Libdems/SNP/DUP etc. vote a bill down they can still vote for the government to stay in any vote of confidence.</p>
<p>It means a lot of horse trading but i suspect the parties would prefer it if they thought that being in coalition might mean a loss of identity or be seen as them compromising there principles for power.</p>
<p>Clearly something like closing 2,500 post offices wouldn&#8217;t get through and electorally it might let the Libdems avoid any debate/questions on who they favour by declaring &#8221; it will be the peoples choice and we will allow the largest party to attempt to form a government.</p>
<p>Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone else been surprised by the lack of any Lib Dem bounce in polls as a result of Cleggs election as leader?.

I still beleive they will suffer a substantial third party squeeze at the next election. With the Iraq war not being the issue it was and also tactical voting unlikely to be used as it was in past.

My constituency is Salisbury and I am very confident the Tories will take the 2 neighbouring constituencies of Romsey and Wichester from the Lib Dems at the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else been surprised by the lack of any Lib Dem bounce in polls as a result of Cleggs election as leader?.</p>
<p>I still beleive they will suffer a substantial third party squeeze at the next election. With the Iraq war not being the issue it was and also tactical voting unlikely to be used as it was in past.</p>
<p>My constituency is Salisbury and I am very confident the Tories will take the 2 neighbouring constituencies of Romsey and Wichester from the Lib Dems at the next election.</p>
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