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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1090/comment-page-2#comment-314449</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re previous comment. Being excessively picky - Pakistan was suspended from the Commonwealth 22 Nov. 2007... I more than applaud the underlying sentiment though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re previous comment. Being excessively picky &#8211; Pakistan was suspended from the Commonwealth 22 Nov. 2007&#8230; I more than applaud the underlying sentiment though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fluffy Thoughts (EDP)</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1090/comment-page-1#comment-314438</link>
		<dc:creator>Fluffy Thoughts (EDP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange poll [ToS/Yougov], but I am no anthropologist. Must be the season of good-will.

Colin, old Rusty McBean is reported to announce that the provision of public-services is to be radically reformed. Maybe saving the public-services will be his legacy, as he also appears to admit that the economy is about to go the proverbial &quot;pants-up&quot;.

As nothing is currently happening in the political sphere in Her Majesty&#039;s Kingdom why have polls? Most people are more concerned about their friends, relations, and fellow Commonwealth citizens in Pakistan. In 2008 we have many pit-falls awaiting; many known knowns, some unknown unknowns, and lost that remain unknown but we should know.

So - as is the spirit of the year - let&#039;s debate tomorrow as we drink 2007 good-bye. Let&#039;s judge one-another not by race, upbringing, or inability to conform what we see as right [sic]. Let&#039;s us look forward to 2008 and it&#039;s many elections, it&#039;s unsure legislation and, come April, the raising of the lowest tax-band from 10% to 20%. No wonder our political leaders want a 10% pay-rise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange poll [ToS/Yougov], but I am no anthropologist. Must be the season of good-will.</p>
<p>Colin, old Rusty McBean is reported to announce that the provision of public-services is to be radically reformed. Maybe saving the public-services will be his legacy, as he also appears to admit that the economy is about to go the proverbial &#8220;pants-up&#8221;.</p>
<p>As nothing is currently happening in the political sphere in Her Majesty&#8217;s Kingdom why have polls? Most people are more concerned about their friends, relations, and fellow Commonwealth citizens in Pakistan. In 2008 we have many pit-falls awaiting; many known knowns, some unknown unknowns, and lost that remain unknown but we should know.</p>
<p>So &#8211; as is the spirit of the year &#8211; let&#8217;s debate tomorrow as we drink 2007 good-bye. Let&#8217;s judge one-another not by race, upbringing, or inability to conform what we see as right [sic]. Let&#8217;s us look forward to 2008 and it&#8217;s many elections, it&#8217;s unsure legislation and, come April, the raising of the lowest tax-band from 10% to 20%. No wonder our political leaders want a 10% pay-rise!</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1090/comment-page-1#comment-314433</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the reports of the YouGov poll too - its very much in line with what I&#039;ve been talking about for a considerable time now and rather backs up my comments to some of you who immediately wrote off an earlier better poll for Labour as a rogue. Cameron has established a reputation as a good leader of the opposition but has not yet convinced voters that he is PM material. It will be very interesting to see how the internal Tory tensions between modernisers and traditionalists play out in 2008 - that is one story that is far from over, and we still don&#039;t know what Cameron&#039;s real opinions and policies are. Labour is in trouble, but not terminaly so. Those of you who believe Brown is finished may well be seriously disappointed. 
Brown is warning today of a tough economic climate - it&#039;s clear what line he is looking to play in 2008, and he knows voters still have serious doubts about Cameron&#039;s leadership in tough times. 
I would expect the polls to bounce around a little in the coming year - Tory spikes when there is a bad news story, settling back when there isn&#039;t. Perhaps an embarrassment for Cameron in the May London elections helping Labour nudge ahead for a while (good chance to get the Eton Toff arguement an easy airing). What will be most interesting is to see what people start telling pollsters when a real election is approaching. John Major played a blinder on this in 1992, telling voters to think about what they were doing as the pencil hovered over the ballot paper and it worked - despite all the reservations they rejected the unknown quantity with a dramatic late swing. Whether Cameron can convince people is a question I don&#039;t think we will have an answer to until those final few seconds in the polling booths, and I think the next election could go right down to the wire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the reports of the YouGov poll too &#8211; its very much in line with what I&#8217;ve been talking about for a considerable time now and rather backs up my comments to some of you who immediately wrote off an earlier better poll for Labour as a rogue. Cameron has established a reputation as a good leader of the opposition but has not yet convinced voters that he is PM material. It will be very interesting to see how the internal Tory tensions between modernisers and traditionalists play out in 2008 &#8211; that is one story that is far from over, and we still don&#8217;t know what Cameron&#8217;s real opinions and policies are. Labour is in trouble, but not terminaly so. Those of you who believe Brown is finished may well be seriously disappointed.<br />
Brown is warning today of a tough economic climate &#8211; it&#8217;s clear what line he is looking to play in 2008, and he knows voters still have serious doubts about Cameron&#8217;s leadership in tough times.<br />
I would expect the polls to bounce around a little in the coming year &#8211; Tory spikes when there is a bad news story, settling back when there isn&#8217;t. Perhaps an embarrassment for Cameron in the May London elections helping Labour nudge ahead for a while (good chance to get the Eton Toff arguement an easy airing). What will be most interesting is to see what people start telling pollsters when a real election is approaching. John Major played a blinder on this in 1992, telling voters to think about what they were doing as the pencil hovered over the ballot paper and it worked &#8211; despite all the reservations they rejected the unknown quantity with a dramatic late swing. Whether Cameron can convince people is a question I don&#8217;t think we will have an answer to until those final few seconds in the polling booths, and I think the next election could go right down to the wire.</p>
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		<title>By: NBeale</title>
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		<dc:creator>NBeale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PA reports this poll but I can&#039;t see it on the timesonline website (???).  It makes the WMA 41:33:16 - a year ago it was 37:33:17.  But it is deeply puzzling that Brown&#039;s ratings go down and Cameron&#039;s up and the C Lead goes down. I wonder whether a poll in the middle of the Christmas Break has some reliability problems.  We shall have to see next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PA reports this poll but I can&#8217;t see it on the timesonline website (???).  It makes the WMA 41:33:16 &#8211; a year ago it was 37:33:17.  But it is deeply puzzling that Brown&#8217;s ratings go down and Cameron&#8217;s up and the C Lead goes down. I wonder whether a poll in the middle of the Christmas Break has some reliability problems.  We shall have to see next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Whiskey Yeah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whiskey Yeah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi New Opinion Poll out on SUNDAY TIMES NEWSPAPER Shows Conservative 40% Labour 35% Lib Dems 15% 
Other Parties 10% on YOU GOV POLL ON 30th DEC 2007!

Good News for Labour and Gordon Brown but Bad news for David Cameron Voters still have reservations about him because they think he is a Bit Smarmy still and A ETON TOFF?

Nick Clegg will be a threat towards David and Gordon because of his youth looks?

If Gordon Brown knows if he loses an A Genral Election who will have a plan to change the voting System to prevent the Tories (Conservatives)will win an General Election again by First Past The Post by Changing Electoral System?

He can think of 3 different Voting P.R Systems like Alternative Vote Plus, Additional Member System or Single Transferable Vote this is a form of Proportional Representation to prevent a Tory government getting a majority in the House of Commons!

Go on Gordon wrong Foot the Tory Party and wrong foot Cameron change the Electoral System and the Constitutional System in Local Government and Elected House of Lords!

Go on Gordon I hope you do this before the Election in 2009 or 2010?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi New Opinion Poll out on SUNDAY TIMES NEWSPAPER Shows Conservative 40% Labour 35% Lib Dems 15%<br />
Other Parties 10% on YOU GOV POLL ON 30th DEC 2007!</p>
<p>Good News for Labour and Gordon Brown but Bad news for David Cameron Voters still have reservations about him because they think he is a Bit Smarmy still and A ETON TOFF?</p>
<p>Nick Clegg will be a threat towards David and Gordon because of his youth looks?</p>
<p>If Gordon Brown knows if he loses an A Genral Election who will have a plan to change the voting System to prevent the Tories (Conservatives)will win an General Election again by First Past The Post by Changing Electoral System?</p>
<p>He can think of 3 different Voting P.R Systems like Alternative Vote Plus, Additional Member System or Single Transferable Vote this is a form of Proportional Representation to prevent a Tory government getting a majority in the House of Commons!</p>
<p>Go on Gordon wrong Foot the Tory Party and wrong foot Cameron change the Electoral System and the Constitutional System in Local Government and Elected House of Lords!</p>
<p>Go on Gordon I hope you do this before the Election in 2009 or 2010?</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Thompson</title>
		<link>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1090/comment-page-1#comment-314279</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more poll for 2007 at least . . . Sunday Times/YouGov.

Headline Figures: 40/35/16 (Con Lead 5)
&quot;Almost 6 out of 10 believe the Prime Minister is doing badly&quot;

Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3108146.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more poll for 2007 at least . . . Sunday Times/YouGov.</p>
<p>Headline Figures: 40/35/16 (Con Lead 5)<br />
&#8220;Almost 6 out of 10 believe the Prime Minister is doing badly&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3108146.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3108146.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Atlas shrugged</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atlas shrugged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin

I think you may be forgetting that there are some sensible people in the NHS and teaching professions that know things need reforming. Thats why many of the more sensible ones voted for TB 3 times in the first place. But now they have seen either no real reform, or very destructive target based reforms that have in practice made things worse, rather then better.

The simple point to remember is that as perceptions are all in politics, what Clegg says is important as far as the fortunes of the Conservative party are concerned. 

Especially in Con/Lab marginals, which are the ones that really count the most. True 6 pointers you might say. 

Also why vote Lib/Dem to keep out a Tory when the result could be 5 more years of Labour. When Lib/Dem policies are much the same as Tory ones?

If The Lib/Dems spend their air time propagating basically practical free market policies then Clegg will help to make practical free market policies become acceptable to the general electorate. 

This will largely castrate the Labour parties affiliated media, like for example the BBC and the Daily Mirror. 

Who will then be hard pushed to start indicting that such policies will result in the entire population possibly dying of cancer and the NHS being unable or unwilling to treat them. Very much like they did very cleverly, during the last 3 general elections.

I could be wrong about this, but I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin</p>
<p>I think you may be forgetting that there are some sensible people in the NHS and teaching professions that know things need reforming. Thats why many of the more sensible ones voted for TB 3 times in the first place. But now they have seen either no real reform, or very destructive target based reforms that have in practice made things worse, rather then better.</p>
<p>The simple point to remember is that as perceptions are all in politics, what Clegg says is important as far as the fortunes of the Conservative party are concerned. </p>
<p>Especially in Con/Lab marginals, which are the ones that really count the most. True 6 pointers you might say. </p>
<p>Also why vote Lib/Dem to keep out a Tory when the result could be 5 more years of Labour. When Lib/Dem policies are much the same as Tory ones?</p>
<p>If The Lib/Dems spend their air time propagating basically practical free market policies then Clegg will help to make practical free market policies become acceptable to the general electorate. </p>
<p>This will largely castrate the Labour parties affiliated media, like for example the BBC and the Daily Mirror. </p>
<p>Who will then be hard pushed to start indicting that such policies will result in the entire population possibly dying of cancer and the NHS being unable or unwilling to treat them. Very much like they did very cleverly, during the last 3 general elections.</p>
<p>I could be wrong about this, but I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fluffy &amp; NBeale-except that Clegg is making Cameronian noises about the Public Services...less central control/more client choice/more local autonomy etc etc.

I&#039;m pretty certain the teachers wouldn&#039;t willingly vote for this agenda-or the nurses if it means the dreaded &quot;reforms&quot;.
They will be glad that Blair&#039;s efforts to push public sector reforms died with his departure, and hoping that Brown will row back from them.Therefore IMHO the only way a LibDem  vote would be more appealing than a NuLab one would be if the former offered public sector policies to the left of the latter.
Clegg appears to be trying to move right of centre rather than left of Labour.Had he ( or Huhne!)chosen the latter course I agree that this would have offered a home for disaffected public sector workers, concerned about a Tory Government and disillusioned with NuLab&#039;s lack of socialist credentials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fluffy &amp; NBeale-except that Clegg is making Cameronian noises about the Public Services&#8230;less central control/more client choice/more local autonomy etc etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty certain the teachers wouldn&#8217;t willingly vote for this agenda-or the nurses if it means the dreaded &#8220;reforms&#8221;.<br />
They will be glad that Blair&#8217;s efforts to push public sector reforms died with his departure, and hoping that Brown will row back from them.Therefore IMHO the only way a LibDem  vote would be more appealing than a NuLab one would be if the former offered public sector policies to the left of the latter.<br />
Clegg appears to be trying to move right of centre rather than left of Labour.Had he ( or Huhne!)chosen the latter course I agree that this would have offered a home for disaffected public sector workers, concerned about a Tory Government and disillusioned with NuLab&#8217;s lack of socialist credentials.</p>
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		<title>By: NBeale</title>
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		<dc:creator>NBeale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fluffy - I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right on this. 42 of the LibDem top 100 seats are Lab held and it is possible that they could, over 2 elections, replace Labour as the party of Opposition.  Given the utter collapse of Labour morale, it might be possible sooner - Lab defections to the Lib Dems are by no means unthinkable in 08 or 09.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fluffy &#8211; I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right on this. 42 of the LibDem top 100 seats are Lab held and it is possible that they could, over 2 elections, replace Labour as the party of Opposition.  Given the utter collapse of Labour morale, it might be possible sooner &#8211; Lab defections to the Lib Dems are by no means unthinkable in 08 or 09.</p>
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		<title>By: Fluffy Thoughts (EDP)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fluffy Thoughts (EDP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Alec, 24th December 2007.

Sorry for the delay. Politics and Christmas should never mix. My point about Clegg may need clarifying.

Many Labour voters would never vote Tory. Having a demi-Thatcher (a&#039; la Blair) in charge of the LibDems could enfranchise discontented supporters of NewLab to defect to a NewTory-lite LibDems.

Given the alleged support for the public-sector that the LibDems pander for, public-sector professional [sic] could see this as an alternative support-option to the Tories. Teachers, nurses and junior police-officers have much to avoid NewLab about...!

Happy New Year one and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Alec, 24th December 2007.</p>
<p>Sorry for the delay. Politics and Christmas should never mix. My point about Clegg may need clarifying.</p>
<p>Many Labour voters would never vote Tory. Having a demi-Thatcher (a&#8217; la Blair) in charge of the LibDems could enfranchise discontented supporters of NewLab to defect to a NewTory-lite LibDems.</p>
<p>Given the alleged support for the public-sector that the LibDems pander for, public-sector professional [sic] could see this as an alternative support-option to the Tories. Teachers, nurses and junior police-officers have much to avoid NewLab about&#8230;!</p>
<p>Happy New Year one and all.</p>
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