Stoke-on-Trent South

2015 Result:
Conservative: 12780 (32.7%)
Labour: 15319 (39.2%)
Lib Dem: 1309 (3.3%)
Green: 1029 (2.6%)
UKIP: 8298 (21.2%)
TUSC: 372 (1%)
MAJORITY: 2539 (6.5%)

Category: Semi-marginal Labour seat

Geography: West Midlands, Staffordshire. The southern part of the Stoke-on-Trent council area.

Main population centres: Longton, Fenton.

Profile: Stoke-on-Trent is actually an amalgamation of six towns, heavily associated with the industrial pottery industry. The most famous British pottery brands such as Wedgwood and Spode are all based in or around Stoke. This is also a former coal mining area, with the last coal mine in Stoke closing in the 1990s. Stoke-on-Trent South covers the two most southern of the six towns, Longton and Fenton, as well as the Mier Park estate (built on the site of old aerodrome) and Trentham, the most middle class suburb of Stoke.

Politics: Historically Stoke-on-Trent South has been the least safe of the Stoke seats for Labour, but that is by the standards of a city that is solidly Labour. Stoke-on-Trent South has been Labour since its creation in 1950, and Robert Flello retained a ten percent majority at the last election..


Current MP
ROBERT FLELLO (Labour) Born 1966, Birmingham. Educated at Kings Norton Boys School and University of Wales. Former tax and financial advisor. Birmingham councillor 2002-2004. First elected as MP for Stoke on Trent South in 2005. PPS to Bob Ainsworth 2009-2010.
Past Results
2010
Con: 11316 (28%)
Lab: 15446 (39%)
LDem: 6323 (16%)
BNP: 3762 (9%)
Oth: 3005 (8%)
MAJ: 4130 (10%)
2005*
Con: 9046 (24%)
Lab: 17727 (47%)
LDem: 5894 (16%)
BNP: 3305 (9%)
Oth: 1848 (5%)
MAJ: 8681 (23%)
2001
Con: 8877 (25%)
Lab: 19366 (54%)
LDem: 4724 (13%)
BNP: 1358 (4%)
Oth: 1703 (5%)
MAJ: 10489 (29%)
1997
Con: 10342 (22%)
Lab: 28645 (62%)
LDem: 4710 (10%)
Oth: 1436 (3%)
MAJ: 18303 (40%)

*There were boundary changes after 2005

Demographics
2015 Candidates
JOE RICH (Conservative) Barrister.
ROBERT FLELLO (Labour) See above.
PETER ANDRAS (Liberal Democrat) Educated at Babes

Comments - 166 Responses on “Stoke-on-Trent South”
  1. ‘Rob Flello deselected as LD candidate, due to his anti-abortion and same sex marriage stances.’

    That’s absolutely ridiculous.

    Moral issues such as abortion and same sex marriage are clearly personal issues for a candidate’s conscience and can’t be dictated from above

    I could not vote LD on that basis if I lived in this seat

  2. I agree, but it’s why David Alton left the LDs 20 years ago.

    Paddy increasingly made it impossible to be a LD and hold such views.

    If Farron was still leader Flello might have survived. Given that in fact 3 LD MPs voted against although none are now MPs.

  3. I disagree. The liberal position is to vote for people to be able to make their own decisions, despite your private disapproval. That was Tim Farron’s view of gay marriage.

    It’s also my view on weed. I don’t approve of cannabis, I doubt I’d use it if it were legal, but I think other people should be allowed to make different decisions to me. I think if you’re the sort of person who wishes to impose your moral values upon everyone then the Liberal Demcras probably isn’t the party for you.

  4. Farron’s view is plain bonkers (even more so than those avidly for or against). He opposes x, views it as sinful, but votes for it!

    You can’t have a personal stance and vote against it. Conscience votes mean you vote with your conscience.

    Paddy’s view was you can’t make your own decision on these votes and remain a LD.

  5. “The liberal position is to vote for people to be able to make their own decisions, despite your private disapproval.”

    Even if you are someone who sincerely believes that abortion is murder, you mean you should still vote for other people to choose to ‘murder’ babies because they don’t believe it is murder, they think it is a woman’s right over her own body?

    Rather than have a free vote where MPs vote with their consciences?

    Really?

  6. “I could not vote LD on that basis if I lived in this seat”

    Well the Lib Dems know that here in what is perhaps one of the most anti Lib Dem areas of the country, its not a problem that many voters are going to have to face.

  7. I agree with Tim’s comments here. Boris Johnson is very lucky that Swinson is turning out to be such a dud of a leader. The Lib Dems could have been the nucleus of a big tent centrist movement, instead her obsession with identity politics and sixth form sloganising is creating the opposite of a big tent.

    People have their eyes on Chuka but IMO Sam Gymiah is the one to watch if Swinson crashes and burns. Living just over the boundary from East Surrey I am pretty local to his seat and he was very well regarded there.

  8. To be honest I don’t think the Lib Dem slide is Jo Swinson’s fault. She’s caught in the mother of all squeezes. The perversity of FPTP is that a huge gap between the big two actually suppresses the emergence of a middle-way option, as everyone is incentivised to vote for one extreme to suppress the other.

  9. Must also be said that the Lib Dems have done well to force Labour to move its stance on a second referendum and freedom of movement.

  10. ‘…instead her obsession with identity politics and sixth form sloganising is creating the opposite of a big tent’.

    This ‘girly swot’ thing is totally cringeworthy.

  11. “Must also be said that the Lib Dems have done well to force Labour to move its stance on a second referendum and freedom of movement.”

    Eh? Labour passed a conference resolution to effectively have free movement with the rest of the world. That is what removing the hostile environment, detention centres, ending no recourse to public funds, ending spousal/family income requirements and heavily watering down enforcement will effectively lead to. That wasn’t because of pressure from the Lib Dems, it was because far left wackos have taken over the Labour party.

    IMO free movement with reciprocation within the EU/EEA is defensible, Labour’s policy is batshit crazy.

  12. “This ‘girly swot’ thing is totally cringeworthy.”

    Not clear to me what you mean by that – her being a girly swot is cringeworthy, or me going on about it 🙂

    Incidentally, as a gay person does it not irritate you that gay marriage and abortion are so often bracketed together in the same sentence?

    Gay marriage has brought great joy to a few people without harming the many – good on them.

    Abortion is a terrible and tragic act that all but the wackiest extremists would want to try to minimise. Though I personally prefer it to be legalised than not, as we don’t want backstreet abortion making a comeback, I understand those who think differently and don’t consider it right to impose my opinion on them.

  13. I meant her going on about being a girly swot is cringeworthy lol. It’s not an interesting or effective catchphrase.
    I’ve never thought about gay marriage and abortion being grouped together, but you’re right that they often are. I support the current abortion laws as they currently stand. To be honest, the issue is never going to affect me too directly so I see it as none of my business.

  14. I also support the current abortion laws as the least bad compromise, but that doesn’t mean I like abortion, at best it is a regrettable necessity.

  15. It’s an accident of history. It just so happened that the gay rights movement and pro-choice feminism came of age contemporaneously, and became intertwined as part of the broader civil rights movement of the sixties, even though they don’t have much in common.

  16. PT – “suppresses the emergence of a middle way option”

    Or rather there just aren’t this great masse of centrists out there that some claim.

    It’s not FPTP that’s defeating her. It’s that she isn’t getting the ratings that the SDP Alliance received, however much her or Chuka or their dodgy bar charts claim otherwise.

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