North West European Region

2014 Election
2014 Results
1. Theresa Griffin (Labour) 594063 33.9% (+13.5%)
2. Paul Nuttall (UKIP) 481932 27.5% (+11.7%)
3. Jacqueline Foster (Conservative) 351985 20.1% (-5.5%)
4. Afzal Khan (Labour) (297032)
5. Louise Bours (UKIP) (240966)
6. Julie Ward (Labour) (198021)
7. Sajjad Karim (Conservative) (175993)
8. Steven Woolfe (UKIP) (160644)
. (Green) 123075 7% (-0.7%)
. (Liberal Democrat) 105487 6% (-8.3%)
. (BNP) 32826 1.9% (-6.1%)
. (Independence from Europe) 25999 1.5% (n/a)
. (English Democrats) 19522 1.1% (-1.3%)
. (Pirate) 8597 0.5% (n/a)
. (No2EU) 5402 0.3% (-1.1%)
. (Socialist Equality) 5067 0.3% (n/a)
Current sitting MEPs
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Theresa Griffin (Labour) Educated at Lancaster University. Trade union organiser. Former Liverpool councillor. Contested North West European election 1999, 2004, 2009. MEP for North West since 2014
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Paul Nuttall (UKIP) Borm 1976, Liverpool. Educated at Savio High School and Edge Hill University. Former lecturer. Deputy leader of UKIP since 2010. Contested Bootle 2005, 2010, Oldham East and Saddleworth 2011 by-election. MEP for the North West since 2009
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Jacqueline Foster (Conservative) Born 1947, Liverpool. Educated at Prescot Girls Grammar. Aviation consultant and former air hostess. Contested Newham South 1992, Peterborough 1997. MEP for the North West 1999-2004 and since 2009
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Afzal Khan (Labour) Born 1960, Pakistan. Solicitor. Manchester councillor since 2000. MEP for North West since 2014. Awarded the CBE for services to race relations.
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Louise Bours (UKIP) Educated at Mountview Conservatoire for the Performing Arts. Singer and actor. Former Congleton councillor. Contested Cheshire Police Commissioner election 2012. MEP for North West since 2014
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Julie Ward (Labour) Born 1957, Ripon. Educated at Newcastle University. Ran a social enterprise providing services for people with mental health problems. MEP for North West since 2014
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Sajjad Karim (Conservative) Born 1970, Blackburn. Solicitor. Pendle councillor 1994-2001 for the Liberal Democrats. MEP for the North West since 2004.. Originally elected as a Liberal Democrat, he defected to the Conservatives in 2007.
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Steven Woolfe (UKIP) Educated at Aberystwyth University. Barrister. Contested City and East 2012 London Assembly election, Greater Manchester Police Commissioner election 2012. MEP for North West since 2014

Full candidates for the 2014 European election are here.

2009 Election
2009 Results
1. Robert Atkins (Conservative) 423174 25.6% (+1.5%)
2. Arlene McCarthy (Labour) 336831 20.4% (-6.9%)
3. Paul Nuttall (UKIP) 261740 15.8% (+3.7%)
4. Chris Davies (Liberal Democrat) 235639 14.3% (-1.6%)
5. Saj Karim (Conservative) (211587)
6. Brian Simpson (Labour) (168416)
7. Jacqueline Foster (Conservative) (141058)
8. Nick Griffin (BNP) 132194 8% (+1.6%)
. (Green) 127133 7.7% (+2.1%)
. (English Democrats) 40027 2.4% (+0.8%)
. (Socialist Labour) 26224 1.6% (n/a)
. (Christian) 25999 1.6% (n/a)
. (No2EU) 23580 1.4% (n/a)
. (Jury Team) 8783 0.5% (n/a)
. (Libertas) 6980 0.4% (n/a)
. Francis Apaloo (Independent) 3621 0.2% (n/a)
Current sitting MEPs
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Robert Atkins (Conservative) Born 1946, London. Educated at Highgate School. Haringey councillor 1968-1977. MP for Preston North 1979-1983, South Ribble from 1983-1997. Knighted in 1997. MEP for North West England since 1999. Minister of Transport 1989-1990, Minister of Sport 1990-1992, Minister of State at Northern Ireland Office 1992-1994, Minister of State, Environment 1994-1995.
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Arlene McCarthy (Labour) Born 1960, Belfast. Formerly a European liasion officer for Kirkless council. MEP since 1994.
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Paul Nuttall (UKIP) Borm 1976, Liverpool. Educated at Savio High School and Edge Hill University. Former lecturer. Deputy leader of UKIP since 2010. Contested Bootle 2005, 2010, Oldham East and Saddleworth 2011 by-election. MEP for the North West since 2009
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Chris Davies (Liberal Democrat) Born 1954, Lytham St Annes. Educated at Cheadle Hulme School and Cambridge University. MP for Littleborough and Saddleworth 1995-1997. Contested Oldham East and Saddleworth 1997. MEP for the North West since 1999. Former leader of the Liberal Democrat group in the European Parliament, he stepped down in 2008 after being criticised over a reply to a constituent that accused her of racism. 
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Saj Karim (Conservative) Born 1970, Blackburn. Solicitor. Pendle councillor 1994-2001 for the Liberal Democrats. MEP for North West England since 2004, orginally elected as a Liberal Democrat he defected to the Conservatives in 2007.
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Brian Simpson (Labour) Born 1953, Leigh. Former PE teacher. Former Warrington councillor and Merseyside county councillor. MEP for Cheshire East 1989-1999, MEP for North-West 1999-2004 when he lost his seat. He returned to the European Parliament in 2006 following the resignation of Terry Wynn.
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Jacqueline Foster (Conservative) Born 1947, Liverpool. Educated at Prescot Girls Grammar. Aviation consultant and former air hostess. Contested Newham South 1992, Peterborough 1997. MEP for the North West 1999-2004 and since 2009
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Nick Griffin (BNP) Born 1959, London. Educated at Woodbridge School and Cambridge University. Chairman of the BNP. Former publicity officer and Parliamentary candidate for the National Front before leaving the party in 1989. Joined the BNP in 1995 and edited BNP magazines Spearhead and The Rune. In 1998 he was prosecuted for incitement to racial hatred in reation to an issue of The Rune that denied the holocaust. He was again arrested for incitement to racial hatred in 2004 in relation to a speech he made criticising Islam which was recorded by the BBC, he was subsequently found not guilty at trial. Chairman of the BNP since 1999 he has pursued a strategy of giving the BNP a less overtly racist and extremist image. Contested North West Region 2004 European elections. Contested South Wales West in 2007 Welsh assembly elections. Contested Croydon North-West by-election 1981, Croydon North-West 1983 for the National Front. West Bromwich West by-election 2000, Oldham West & Royton 2001, Keighley 2005, Barking 2010 for the BNP.


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Comments - 394 Responses on “Europe North West”
  1. LAKES

    64. Westmorland 71,549: current Westmorland & Lonsdale minus the parts in traditional Lancashire ‘north of the sands’; the parts of Penrith & the Border in traditional Westmorland. About as faithful to the traditional boundaries of Westmorland as I can manage. Semi-safe LD

    65. Barrow in Furness 78,039: current Barrow & Furness plus Lancastrian parts of Westmorland & Lonsdale. The northerly most seat in traditional Lancashire. The pre-1983 name is readopted. Ultra-marginal Con

    66. West Cumberland 76,839: the coastal parts of the current Workington and Copeland constituencies as far north as Workington. Safe Lab

    67. Mid-Cumberland 71,445: Penrith & the Border less the Border and any bits in the traditional county of Westmorland; the inland wards of the Workington and Copeland constituencies and the Cumberland coast north of Workington. . Safe Con

    68. Carlisle 76,825: current Carlisle constituency; the Border part of Penrith and the Border. The constituency is now coterminous with the Carlisle borough. Semi-safe Con

  2. Lancs
    Maybe a few typos on your part
    “West Lancashire 71,897: current West Lancashire plus the ward of Rufford. Semi-safe Con”

    Adding Rufford reduces Labs majority of over 8,000 by about 500 votes, given the way the seats trending a lil bit optimistic calling the seat semi safe Con don’t you think 😉

    Also ” Crosby 76,378: current Sefton Central plus Victoria from Bootle. Reunites core Crosby. The constituency is renamed to reflect this. Semi-safe Lab”

    Lab majority of nearly 12,000 and you’ve added a ward that INCREASES said majority by another 2,500 or so and again given the way the seats trending only “semi safe” for Lab XD Sorry had to point it out.

    In all seriousness your Liverpool West Derby seat is fine, Fazarkerly isn’t a tack on at all, maybe its cos I’ve spent my whole life crossing the East Lancs but the other side feels just as much a part of Liverpool as anywhere else.

    Irrelevant side note the McDonalds on the East Lancs is the one I go to whenever the mood hits me and I’ve had more birthdays as a kid in the nearby showcase cinema than I can remember…totally pointless info but there you have it XD

  3. Sorry I meant semi-safe Lab in West Lancashire and even I am struggling to keep pace with the scale of political change in Crosby!

  4. Nothing wrong with a bit of pointless info- adds colour to what we do 🙂

  5. Lol glad you approve 🙂

    Also not sure if you noticed but I made a few running comments as you were posting each bit of your plan, just making sure you saw so I don’t bombard you with the same points.

  6. Thought it would probably be for the best that instead of flooding all the threads with BR related stuff we limit them to the appropriate EU region page.

    I’d like to begin by saying I was right on “Morecambe and Lancaster”
    Liverpool is actually pretty decent
    And the new Ribble Valley is out and out hilarious. I suspect they may have been on meth when they came up with that one

  7. Good news for them there though it could have been better, the BC’s last Wirral Deesdie would have been kinder for them.

    Labour probably have lost their chance at winning Southport now having picked up the rural Lancashire wards, half of Formby would have been better for them.

    Sefton Central’s claim to fame (being the seat with the highest % of owner occupiers) looks even more secure having picked up Ainsdale.

    Tory success in Southport though comes at a price, I believe the new South Ribble will be an ultra marginal?

  8. Indeed and given its traditionally pretty strong for the Libs one wonders had the Libs there backed the Tories instead…

  9. Probably not, certainly makes no difference to them these days. In fact I’m pleasantly surprised at the NW as a whole, seems pretty Labour friendly for the most part except Cheshire and Cumbria.

  10. Whatever their partisan effect there are some absolutely woeful proposals in the North West. The Eddisbury & Northwich and Weaver Vale proposals are terrible for reasons I will set out in due course. And don’t even get me started on Stockport.

  11. I agree I thought Cheshire was something of a farce to be honest, that new Weaver Vale stretching from East Runcorn down so the border with Staffordshire its just gross.

  12. The 14 unchanged seats in the North West, all Labour held:

    Blackley & Broughton
    Chorley
    Garston & Halewood
    Knowsley
    Leigh
    Makerfield
    Manchester Gorton
    Manchester Withington
    Salford & Eccles
    St Helens North
    St Helens South & Whiston
    Wigan
    Worsley & Eccles South
    Wythenshawe & Sale East

  13. Stephen Woolfe has resigned from UKIP

  14. It will be interesting to see if any others follow… with all the bad blood in the party it is possible more will leave. As far as the leadership is concerned all eyes will now be on whether or not Paul Nuttall runs this time… if he does I expect he’d win a landslide, if not then there is no clear favourite.

  15. To reply to LO’s comment on the Stockport thread (to avoid two threads on the same thing) even if Woolfe is still interested in joining the Tories I suspect that ship has sailed. The Tories aren’t going to admit somebody who has just been involved in a punch up. Other UKIP>Tory MEP defections must be possible though…

  16. Well he was the victim.

    Plus look at all of the weird and wonderful Cllrs & MEPs DC accepted.

    In fact DC seemed to have a penchant for Asian Cllr defectors who later ended up in Court (12 from memory).

  17. I totally sympathetise the man was punched not exactly gonna make you stay

  18. UKIP LEADERSHIP
    NUTTALL 1/8 (89% probability).

    As long as he doesn’t withdrew he seems to be certain to win.

    A very unusual thing in British politics – a leader of a major party with a genuine working class ENGLISH accent. His ascendancy is bad news for Labour in the north.

  19. It’s an accent that isn’t everyone’s cup of tea though.

  20. “It’s an accent that isn’t everyone’s cup of tea though”

    Having canvassed Bromley under William Hague, I can vouch for that.

    I wonder if a Scouse accent might actually damage a leader in Manchester, or Yorkshire. That said I think Deepthroat’s probably right.

  21. ‘His ascendancy is bad news for Labour in the north.’

    Very bad news

    He might have once been a Tory but he looks and sounds like a Labour politician and whilst that might harm his chances amongst the Chelsea-supporting Southern UKIPpers that hate Northerners full stop, I doubt there will be too many of them and even if they are they will be cancelled by WWC Brexiters, many of whom will be lost from the Labour Party for good

  22. The Local elections are now somewhat understandably being overlooked in terms of coverage, but these are the numbers of seats each Party is defending:

    Labour 1,535 Cllrs
    Cons 1,136
    Ind 687
    LD 484
    SNP 438
    PC 170
    UKIP 146
    Green 34
    Others incl Residents’ 51
    MK 4

  23. To go back to some old (like, six months old) comments about former professional footballer & Hillsborough survivor Paul Nuttall PhD, it now looks a little strange that the Labour Party was ever so scared of him.

    Of course, you could argue that he has done the only thing worse for them than taking Labour votes – he has released many of those votes back into the wild but they seem mainly to be voting for the Conservatives.

  24. He is very slippery. Atm, I think it’s because he’s nervous and lacks confidence. Like a deer caught in the headlights, not knowing which way to turn.

    Very chalk and cheese, him and Farage!

  25. As expected Labour have won both mayoralties in this area

  26. Paul Nuttall has apparently gone into hiding following yesterday’s local elections wipe-out for UKIP. Their Brexit spokesman Gerard Battern tells the BBC that even he doesn’t know where Nuttall is.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-39827141/where-is-ukips-paul-nuttall

  27. Interesting use of the word, ‘selected’ by Saj Karim MEP.

    He was, of course, the LibDem MEP who defected and as such Conservative members under DC were given no vote, as he was regarded by CCHQ as a “sitting Conservative MEP.”

    HH – I assume this was the case again re sitting MEP for selections in 2019?

  28. Ladbrokes’ Odds on EU Elections. Most seats:

    Brexit Party 4/7
    Labour 11/8
    Cons 50/1

    Even Tommy Robinson is only 3/1 to win a seat here.

  29. Well Tommy Robinson is running as an independent – No independent has ever won an EU seat and he is competing with UKIP who offer the same platform but with all the advantages of running a national campaign.

  30. Thoughts-

    1. A huge slap in the face for UKIP & Gerard Batten, who have invested so much in Tommy Robinson and lost so much as a result of their association, that he goes off on his own to stand against them. Though perhaps it might be doing them a favour.

    2. Tommy Robinson looks like a carpet bagger choosing the most likely region to get elected in…the North West is hardly anywhere near his home turf in Luton. Nigel Farage was at the same thing at the weekend waxing lyrical about Oldham in the USA when it’s perfectly obvious it’s the kind of place he’d never like to be seen dead in outside of a campaign.

    3. Can Robinson appear on the ballot paper as “Tommy Robinson” or must it be under his real name of Yaxley-Lennon? This is likely to further damage his slim chance of being elected. Also who is their right mind will vote for someone who claims never to have voted before and indeed that they still aren’t on the electoral register? Is that not illegal?

  31. BM11 – True, although Dr Ian Paisley was effectively an Ind. 7 now are but all defected.

    HH – Tbf that’s what Nick Griffin did in Oldham too.

    Today, I don’t expect Robinson to be elected – primarily because I still believe that even in low turnout elections, you need leaflets, targeting and knocking up to GOTV and even Nick Griffin had this organisation in Oldham, Manchester, Liverpool in 2009 to get elected. But also because we have 1 less in the NW than then, so 8.5% no longer gets you an MEP.

    However, I would add the caveat that the part of his video (
    http://www.votetommy.co.uk ) which is accurate, is that an element of the WWC will cross the road to shake his hand and/or get a photo with him. These tend to be ‘scally youths’ in tracksuits, tradesmen in vans and ex-armed forces.

    [Pete Whitehead goes into more detail re this phenomenon on Vote2012 ie the detail of the Survation poll shows that OAPs have gone to Farage’s Brexit Party, but UKIP and Others are in fact second to Labour amongst the two youngest age groups] There’s also anecdotal evidence of some spoilt postals in the locals having “Oh Tommy Tommy!” written across all boxes.

    In short, the only way I could foresee Tommy winning would be if these under the radar – usual non-voters – turnout in droves, in a sort of polar opposite of the way Islamic voters did for Galloway in Bradford. I find that very unlikely and some won’t even be registered, but his clips are being watched on YouTube and elsewhere in huge numbers and if anything the constant court cases appear to be making him more popular with this demographic, as it plays into the martyr narrative he seeks. He’ll gain the NW BNP vote from 2014 and maybe some of the No2EU vote, but unless something dramatic happens I’d suggest he’ll only manage 2%-4% of the NW vote, compared with perhaps 30% for The Brexit Party up here.

  32. ” Can Robinson appear on the ballot paper as “Tommy Robinson” or must it be under his real name of Yaxley-Lennon”

    he is Tommy Robison on the Statement of Persons Nominated

  33. He must be under the known name – when the results are announced it will be Stephen Yaxley-Lennon known as Tommy Robinson.

  34. * apologies: 2009 was in fact when the number of NW MEPs reduced by 1 and so 8%+ can still get you elected up here.

    For some context, here’s a reminder of how many voters chose to vote for ‘Others’ of the Right or anti-EU candidates in the NW previously:

    2004

    As well as the BNP’s 6.6%
    Liberal 4.6%
    EngDem 1.6%
    Countryside 0.5%
    ProLife 0.5%
    Ind 0.4%

    2009

    EngDem 2.4%
    SocLab 1.6%
    Christian 1.6%
    No2EU 1.4%
    Jury 0.5%
    Libertas 0.4%
    Ind 0.2%

    2014

    BNP 1.9%
    An Ind from EU 1.5%
    EngDem 1.1%
    No2EU 0.3%

    Steve Radford came closest of any almost Ind to be elected in 2004. Even Rev David Braid achieved 0.2%. So it seems voters in the NW are more inclined to vote for ‘Others’ than many other regions.

    HH – No, you don’t have to be on the Roll to stand. Merely to have resided in the area (council, UK or EU in this case) for the previous 12 months. After all, Richard Corbett had his Bruxelles address on the ballot both when he won in the NW and when he lost in Yorkshire.

  35. Tommy Robinson was ex BNP but quit it in 2005 saying they were too extreme.

  36. “He must be under the known name – when the results are announced it will be Stephen Yaxley-Lennon known as Tommy Robinson.”

    It must be the way North West (Manchester) published the SoPN.

    In London they are all listed with their real names with the “commonly knowns as”. Like for ex Timothy Charles Ayrton Tannock Commonly known as Charles Tannock. Etc.

    In North West SoPN there are no “commonly known as”. Some of the other NW candidates have their full names even the middle names they don’t normally use.

  37. On Tommy Robinson’s chances, it is notable that most of the far-right organisations that might have supported him (Britain First, for example) are now banned from most social media and hence have negligible reach. So much more difficult for him to run an “underground” campaign compared to a few years ago.

  38. “HH – No, you don’t have to be on the Roll to stand. Merely to have resided in the area (council, UK or EU in this case) for the previous 12 months. After all, Richard Corbett had his Bruxelles address on the ballot both when he won in the NW and when he lost in Yorkshire.”

    That’s not what I meant. He said he isn’t on the electoral register anywhere. I believe it is illegal for any eligible citizen not to put themselves on the electoral register. Certainly the registration forms seem to make that clear.

    “However, I would add the caveat that the part of his video (
    http://www.votetommy.co.uk ) which is accurate, is that an element of the WWC will cross the road to shake his hand and/or get a photo with him. These tend to be ‘scally youths’ in tracksuits, tradesmen in vans and ex-armed forces.”

    I don’t doubt that’s the case.

    Re Pete Whitehead – he is missed here. Is he still in UKIP? Though an admirer of Enoch Powell, I never had him down as a yobbish type, and I doubt he fits into what UKIP has become.

  39. “On Tommy Robinson’s chances, it is notable that most of the far-right organisations that might have supported him (Britain First, for example) are now banned from most social media and hence have negligible reach. So much more difficult for him to run an “underground” campaign compared to a few years ago.”

    I think that’s going to be about as effective as the forthcoming porn controls.

    Many ordinary people have been brainwashed by the propaganda of Robinson and you see it on their Facebook feeds regularly – sadly this includes my own younger brother who up until recently never seemed to have had a political thought in his life.

  40. BM11 – I thought that, but I was told by an ERO a couple of years ago that that’s no longer the case re names. So a candidate can effectively choose their name on the ballot.

    A slight clarification in that Tommy Robinson is standing with no description, as opposed to an Independent:

    http://www.northwestvotes.gov.uk/info/2/candidates

    PT – I thought that but apparently they are viewing online on platforms other than Facebook and Twitter.

    HH – Yes, I think so. A few ex Tory PPCs are also still in UKIP including the barrister who stood in Clacton.

  41. HH – No, I think it’s just a civil matter and the local council can fine you; but, I don’t think hardly any ever do. Unlike Council Tax where they pursue matters vigorously.

    Maybe he was in prison when the forms went out (we get them in August up here).

  42. HH – I just double checked and Pete W’s ‘colours’ have now changed to the Brexit Party on Vote2012. But he is still defensive of UKIP in his posts and his most recent post is similar to mine, although he ends by saying he wouldn’t rule out Robinson being elected.

  43. “I was told by an ERO a couple of years ago that that’s no longer the case re names. So a candidate can effectively choose their name on the ballot.”

    So Lord Buckethead etc no longer have to change their name by deep poll? I wonder why Yaxley-Lennon hasn’t done so.

    I recall Yaxley-Lennon also went to jail on mortgage fraud charges. How did he get a mortgage when he’s never been on the electoral register?

  44. Looking at the articles from when he was convicted I am not sure he was applying for a mortgage – it sounds like he was more of the middle man.

  45. I think “Tommy’s” last couple of days on the campaign trail make him an incidental candidate. It doesn’t really matter if it takes two to tango but the sight of flying fists from him and his entourage must surely put off many of those leaning towards his policies.

  46. I disagree. If you’re “leaning towards his policies” you’re probably okay with violent behaviour.

    While we’re on the subject, it may be unfashionable to say so, but I don’t think throwing milkshakes at the likes of Stephen Yaxley-Lannon is a good idea. The modern far right thrives off a narrative of victimhood. By assaulting them you are playing into their hands – they can use their underground propaganda channels to declare “they will stop at nothing to defeat us, including violence if we have to, we must fight fire with fire”, which then escalates far-right violence against others. So from a purely tactical perspective it’s not the best idea, and that’s before we get into the principle that human rights mean nothing unless they are extended to everyone, including those we despise.

  47. @ Polltroll

    I accept what you say about throwing milkshakes etc but I think what we have seen recently with the rise of a “respectable” Brexit party and the absolute collapse of UKIP suggests a lot on the far(ish) right can differentiate between the out and out thugs and those with a “radical” agenda when it stares them in the face.

    The events of the last couple of days is a “stare them in the face” moment and the body language was not that of someone like Prescott in a similar situation.

    Of course I don’t think this will change the attitude of his hardcore supporters but I think it is quite sufficient to cap his vote below 8%.

  48. @ Polltroll
    I agree with you regarding the throwing of Milhshakes etc. It just serves to fufil the victim narrative they are using.

  49. I agree that Tommy Robinson will not get enough votes to be elected. I imagine he’ll get around 4%.

  50. Even that is quite High for an independent candidate. The BNP fell to 2% last time so if Tommy Robinson gets 4% along with UKIP getting 6%+ and the Brexit Party getting above 30% the Tories will be below 15% in the North West – they only got 20% last time.
    It will be a real bun fight everywhere.

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