I wouldn’t be surprised

It wouldn’t be until 2030 or so but at the very earliest.

Caroline flint becomes the first Labour Mp to confirm she will be voting for the Deal. In her article she names Lisa Nandy, Gloria De Piero and Gareth Snell as having the same understanding of small towns as she does. Through Snell was critical of the deal yesterday and De Piero is a shadow Minster so not overly certian they going to back the deal.
Don’t be surprised if they are calls for her to lose the whip over this.

~While Lisa Nandy is on twitter backing Caroline Flint’s idea, through prehaps being a bit more open to Parliament amending the withdrawal agreement.

This small towns rehtoric I hear Nandy mention every 10 minutes really lack substance. It’s a shame her politics are enough she doesnt need focus group buzzwords

It looks like Caroline flint sees No deal as better than second referendum.

Backing a 2nd ref would go down badly in don valley

So would a no deal which she clarified n a latter tweet (it showed the downside of one tweet as not enough words to get the point fully across).But with Lisa Nandy announcing her opposition to the deal it is hard to see there being enough Labour rebels to cancel out even the DUP.

I imagine this is the kind of place where ‘no deal is better than a bad deal goes down well’

It does- through of course this also an area where immigration is probably the only aspect of the deal which many people care about. Fishing and Northern Ireland Backstops are probably not key voter issues here.

The thing is, as it becomes clearer by the day that the government is going to lose this vote, the incentive for Labour backbenchers to rebel is severely reduced. Facing the opprobrium of both wings of the Labour Party, with attendant whip disciplining, deselection threats etc, might be a price worth paying for the sake of avoiding a no-deal disaster, but it’s clear that a handful of Caroline Flints voting with May isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference, and therefore there would be no policy reward to compensate the personal sacrifice that would be incurred.

Also, the withdrawal agreement isn’t popular with leavers or remainers. It’s unpopular most everywhere, and I doubt the Don Valley is an exception to that.

I think for Flint it will be that at least a no deal and effects it has on her constituents was not on my conscience – an ‘I tried my best to protect you’ attitude.

I think Polltroll is quite right. There really is no incentive for Labour MPs to vote with May on this…unless they happen to particularly adore the withdrawal bill as it stands, which strikes me as kind of unlikely. The hardcore Eurosceptics in the Tory party won’t back her, the DUP won’t and forget about the SNP. The numbers patently don’t add up.

Theresa May might lose by such a majority that it’s hard to justify bringing this agreement back to the commons again at a later date

Debates and special Question Time’s I suspect biggest effect will be it make even less likely May could convincingly govern if her deal was rejected.

I suspect this view from Bridget Phillipson (Sunderland South) might be pretty typical of those Corbyn-sceptic Labour MPs in northern seats:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/11/theresa-may-wants-my-support-brexit-deal-heres-how-she-can-get-it

Like every other faction, they are moving away from backing the deal.

Caroline Flint has confirmed she would back no deal over revoke.
This is why a no deal will happen – there are enough Labour mp’s to make the number of Tory mp’s needed to stop it unimaginable high number.